Saltley Viaduct long-term closure 2022 to 2023 for HS2 works

[2206]

Its best if they got AG and BC to switch up. Maybe the 14 has E200MMC of AG and E400 for AG. Once viaduct is reopen, E200MMC back to AG and E400 to BC

I was talking about the 94/95.
Though 14's are likewise packed in the peaks at present. So changes would be needed.

[BBS]

I was talking about the 94/95.
Though 14's are likewise packed in the peaks at present. So changes would be needed.

Woudnt the E400MMC Work?

[Gareth]

All 3 routes to single deck for a whole year?
That would be dreadful I would think. The deckers carry full loads at peak times.
Back to the old days of crowded scanias on the 55 to.

What about sending the 94/95 along Aston Church Road and then Nechells Park Road (66 route) instead maybe and into City from there, to skip out the A47?

Whilst using Aston Church Road isn't too bad on a very short term basis as has been done before. It misses out a large chunk of route and busy bus stops. Potentially 5 busy bus stops worth of passengers all using the stop before Aston Church Road. It will be awful long term.
And using the 66 route into town, missing out A47 completely? Bonkers!

[2206]

Whilst using Aston Church Road isn't too bad on a very short term basis as has been done before. It misses out a large chunk of route and busy bus stops. Potentially 5 busy bus stops worth of passengers all using the stop before Aston Church Road. It will be awful long term.

1. You could put on some sort of single decker shuttle/alternative service between Goodrick Way and Fox & Goose via Saltley Gate which connects with the main 94/95 service.
2. You go down Nechells Park Road (66 rte), Goodrick Way and into town along Nechells Parkway which misses out the spine road @Gareth

[Gareth]

You could put on some sort of shuttle/alternative service between Saltley Gate and Fox & Goose.
You go down Goodrick Way and into town along Nechells Parkway @Gareth

Saltley doesn't need a shuttle service. It needs a direct route to and from city centre. Sadly it looks like single deckers at a higher frequency may be the option. However when double deckers are running 4/5/6 at a time within 3 minutes, if that continues, it'll just be nose to tail buses along the whole route with an hour gap inbetween.

[2206]

Saltley doesn't need a shuttle service. It needs a direct route to and from city centre. Sadly it looks like single deckers at a higher frequency may be the option. However when double deckers are running 4/5/6 at a time within 3 minutes, if that continues, it'll just be nose to tail buses along the whole route with an hour gap inbetween.

It'd still have the 14 to Town.
Just means that the 94/95 passengers keep the double decks if they use Aston Church Rd. And the purpose of any sort of shuttle/alternative service should be to connect with the 94/95 during the closure.

Single decks at a higher frequency also means they need more depot space and more drivers to.
6822 was full this evening to, single deck definitley would've probably left far more people behind.

[BBS]

Saltley doesn't need a shuttle service. It needs a direct route to and from city centre. Sadly it looks like single deckers at a higher frequency may be the option. However when double deckers are running 4/5/6 at a time within 3 minutes, if that continues, it'll just be nose to tail buses along the whole route with an hour gap inbetween.

Already, 8A/8C and 4/4A get full buses because of the single deckers so dont expect to see any difference in those routes if they become Single decker

[Pat]

I mean if AG loses the 22** then 32 might be affected since it has e200mmc but 4/4A will go fully E400 Then if that happens

The 32 uses a Scania most days

[BBS]

The 32 uses a Scania most days

58 does

[Jack]

If the 55/94 is still combined at Perry Barr, I can see them needing more single deckers as there would be nowhere near enough for those to be Single Deck as well, 52 can be Decker operated. Could see the majority of WB's Omnilinks move for a load of Deckers from PB, considering Deckers can do the majority of WB routes apart from the 3/3A, 22 and both sets of 54's.

But as well mostly by that time Coventry should be Electric so most of the B7's can be used surplus as well as they will need a new home soon.

[4679]

considering Deckers can do the majority of WB routes apart from the 3/3A, 22 and both sets of 54's.

Deckers can be and have been used on the 3/3A in the past.

[Pat]

58 does

It sees a mix.  Basically any AG single deck can go on it.

[Tony]

It sees a mix.  Basically any AG single deck can go on it.

AG just use all their non-branded single decks as one pool, so either type will turn up on any route

[B.C Driver]

Sigle deckers on the 14 can be very awkward on Alum Rock Rd due to the extra length.

[Jack]

Deckers can be and have been used on the 3/3A in the past.

That was until the signs on the bridge at Sandwell and Dudley was changed...