Saltley Viaduct long-term closure 2022 to 2023 for HS2 works

[Gareth]

Letter in the post today from HS2.

Saltley Viaduct will be closed from Summer 2022 to Autumn 2023 for HS2 works. That's not going to be fun! All diversions will be published at a later date.

[ellspurs]

Letter in the post today from HS2.

Saltley Viaduct will be closed from Summer 2022 to Autumn 2023 for HS2 works. That's not going to be fun! All diversions will be published at a later date.

At a guess...

94/95 via Aston Church Road and the A47 (as it has been done in the past).
8A/C via coming back down Adderley Road and then via Duddeston Mill Road and Devon Street (as they are all single deckers anyway).
14 via Washwood Heath Road, Aston Church Road and the A47.

There's a 14' 0" bridge (Duddeston Mill Road) and a 13' 0" (Landor Street) on the other two closest roads that go through to the other side, so unless the buses are made single decker then they can't use them.

[Gareth]

At a guess...

94/95 via Aston Church Road and the A47 (as it has been done in the past).
8A/C via coming back down Adderley Road and then via Duddeston Mill Road and Devon Street (as they are all single deckers anyway).
14 via Washwood Heath Road, Aston Church Road and the A47.

There's a 14' 0" bridge (Duddeston Mill Road) and a 13' 0" (Landor Street) on the other two closest roads that go through to the other side, so unless the buses are made single decker then they can't use them.

There was talk a couple of years ago that the 14 would become single decker during the Viaduct works. But at that time BC still operated B7s. So I'm not sure of works are delayed or if that was just purely speculation. Probably the latter.

[2206]

There was talk a couple of years ago that the 14 would become single decker during the Viaduct works. But at that time BC still operated B7s. So I'm not sure of works are delayed or if that was just purely speculation. Probably the latter.

There are pleanty of E200 MMC at AG that could be swapped for E400.
However E200 MMC on the 14 wouldn't be very good I think.

Is it possible to deepen some of those low bridges as well?

[BBS]

There are pleanty of E200 MMC at AG that could be swapped for E400.
However E200 MMC on the 14 wouldn't be very good I think.

Is it possible to deepen some of those low bridges as well?

Are AG even allowed to have the E400's BC have?

[Kevin]

Letter in the post today from HS2.

Saltley Viaduct will be closed from Summer 2022 to Autumn 2023 for HS2 works. That's not going to be fun! All diversions will be published at a later date.

Part of me imagines that, with a closure that long, they'd put some full on service changes in place. Maybe move a double deck 14 away from Duddeston completely and route it via Garrison Lane & Adderley Park Station, and some sort of short local single deck service serving Duddeston and Saltley

[BBS]

Part of me imagines that, with a closure that long, they'd put some full on service changes in place. Maybe move a double deck 14 away from Duddeston completely and route it via Garrison Lane & Adderley Park Station, and some sort of short local single deck service serving Duddeston and Saltley

I do think AG's E200MMC would be better suited for 14 to be honest

[2206]

Are AG even allowed to have the E400's BC have?

Probably, as new types have been introduced at other garages before. They'd be able to go on most routes, 4/4A, 11, 72/73.
Just wouldn't be allowed on the 5 probably.

The problem with the E200 MMC on the 14 would probably be peak time capacity.

[BBS]

Probably, as new types have been introduced at other garages before. They'd be able to go on most routes, 4/4A, 11, 72/73.
Just wouldn't be allowed on the 5 probably.

The problem with the E200 MMC on the 14 would probably be peak time capacity.

I mean if AG loses the 22** then 32 might be affected since it has e200mmc but 4/4A will go fully E400 Then if that happens

[Stu]

Topic split from 'Diversions' thread to save clogging that one up with speculation.

[Steveminor]

There will be lots of Works equipment on the spine road with heavy delays possible.

Early talk is of going under the duddeston low bridge & services becoming single deck but these talks & plans could change.

[2206]

There will be lots of Works equipment on the spine road with heavy delays possible.

Early talk is of going under the duddeston low bridge & services becoming single deck but these talks & plans could change.

All 3 routes to single deck for a whole year?
That would be dreadful I would think. The deckers carry full loads at peak times.
Back to the old days of crowded scanias on the 55 to.

What about sending the 94/95 along Aston Church Road and then Nechells Park Road (66 route) instead maybe and into City from there, to skip out the A47?

[BBS]

All 3 routes to single deck for a whole year?
That would be dreadful I would think. The deckers carry full loads at peak times.
Back to the old days of crowded scanias on the 55 to.

What about sending them along Aston Church Road and then Nechells Park Road (66 route) instead maybe and into Town from there?

or maybe using landor st and then adderley road

[2206]

or maybe using landor st and then adderley road

There is a low bridge on Landor Street.

[BBS]

There is a low bridge on Landor Street.

Its best if they got AG and BC to switch up. Maybe the 14 has E200MMC of AG and E400 for AG. Once viaduct is reopen, E200MMC back to AG and E400 to BC