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Service Changes August 29th 2021.

Started by 2206, July 15, 2021, 04:42:14 PM

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Westy

Are timetable leaflets coming back at this point, or is that still up in the air at the moment?

SO6597

#211
Quote from: j789 on July 27, 2021, 12:47:06 PM
Wasn't the 62 taken off more because they wanted to increase the 63 frequency rather than it proving too costly? The 63 is still very frequent now, I wonder perhaps if they could introduce a 63a service that ran up to Rednal then via Leach Green Lane to Rubery to join back in with the normal 63.

If the buses were scheduled to do a normal 63 followed by a 63a in return (in both directions) then it may be possible to run this 63a without any additional bus (with a few less minutes at the terminus perhaps).

I think there's an issue with DDs running along Leach Green Lane due to low hanging trees.

There used to be a 63A in the mid/late 90s on Sunday evenings but it used to go up Lickey Road to the 62 terminus and back down again before continuing along the normal line of route. 

I loved the old terminus. A childhood spotting haunt - 62, 64 and the old MRW 334/302.

2206

#212
Quote from: MasterPlan on July 27, 2021, 06:51:17 AM
Bit of a difference between an extension to one of the routes and one of the routes disappearing completely.

I can't see 6880-9 being re-branded afterwards anyway to be honest.
They'll probably be rebranded in the new style branding like the 8/X8 you would think as the University Station/Selly Oak - City bit is a major/key corridor as links important places like the QE/Uni to the City Centre.  And you would expect X21/X22 will see some sort of increase to reatain the frequency?
Either that or they might brand some of the 75XX for the University corridor instead & 688X for the Bromford routes.
Quote from: SO6597 on July 27, 2021, 02:33:10 PM
I think there's an issue with DDs running along Leach Green Lane due to low hanging trees.
Could cut the trees back? The X20 used to use Edgewood Road so they can go up that one.
I would have thought better left how it is is currently though if the 20 is still going to be every 20 mins though?
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

SO6597

Quote from: 2206 on July 27, 2021, 03:12:35 PM
They'll probably be rebranded in the new style branding like the 8/X8 you would think as the University Station - City bit is a major/key corridor as links important places like the QE/Uni to the City Centre.  And you would expect X21/X22 will see some sort of increase to reatain the frequency?
Either that or they might brand some of the 75XX for the University corridor instead & 688X for the Bromford routes.Could cut the trees back? The X20 used to use Edgewood Road so they can go up that one.
I would have thought better left how it is though if the 20 is currently still going to be every 20 mins though?

Edgewood Rd and Ashill Road have a weight limit on them now which spells the end for any large bus using that route. 

MasterPlan

Quote from: 2206 on July 27, 2021, 03:12:35 PM
They'll probably be rebranded in the new style branding like the 8/X8 you would think as the University Station/Selly Oak - City bit is a major/key corridor as links important places like the QE/Uni to the City Centre.  And you would expect X21/X22 will see some sort of increase to reatain the frequency?
Either that or they might brand some of the 75XX for the University corridor instead & 688X for the Bromford routes

We'll see about the branding, but I doubt it to be honest.

As for the frequency, they will probably just replace the X20 with short workings on either the X21 or X22 to University Station instead.
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

Steve3229vp

Quote from: MasterPlan on July 27, 2021, 04:45:07 PM
We'll see about the branding, but I doubt it to be honest.

As for the frequency, they will probably just replace the X20 with short workings on either the X21 or X22 to University Station instead.
I think it's more likely the the X21 and X22 will be every 15 minutes each (combined every 7-8 minutes).

monkeyjoe

Quote from: SO6597 on July 27, 2021, 02:33:10 PM
I think there's an issue with DDs running along Leach Green Lane due to low hanging trees.

There used to be a 63A in the mid/late 90s on Sunday evenings but it used to go up Lickey Road to the 62 terminus and back down again before continuing along the normal line of route. 

I loved the old terminus. A childhood spotting haunt - 62, 64 and the old MRW 334/302.


I remember 63a and trying to cut costs with only a few garages operating services on a Sunday until all the drivers went on strike.

Tony

Quote from: SO6597 on July 27, 2021, 03:34:40 PM
Edgewood Rd and Ashill Road have a weight limit on them now which spells the end for any large bus using that route.

There is no weight limit for buses on those roads

Jack

Quote from: Tony on July 27, 2021, 05:17:36 PM
There is no weight limit for buses on those roads
What was the exact reason the X20 was took off Edgewood Road? I know the residents caused a fuss about double deckers going past but that can't be the reason surely?


monkeyjoe

Looks like 45 & 63 now have route changes.

2206

#221
Quote from: MasterPlan on July 26, 2021, 11:22:03 AM
https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/39

How reliable is 'Bustimes' for things like this? Suggesting there's a route change but the Woodgate terminus is just because X22 is being added to registration, right?

Additionally, a changed hinted at for the 45 and or 47.

https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/123
One of the drivers on the University corridor told someone today X20 scrapped and X21 route is changing on the 29th. Whats changing?
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94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

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Quote from: 2206 on August 03, 2021, 02:31:11 PM
One of the drivers on the University corridor told someone today X20 scrapped and X21 route is changing on the 29th. Whats changing?

Wait til the changes are announced? Only 4 weeks to go so surely will be revealed in the next week or so.
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MasterPlan

Quote from: 2206 on August 03, 2021, 02:31:11 PM
One of the drivers on the University corridor told someone today X20 scrapped and X21 route is changing on the 29th. Whats changing?

I still can't believe the X20 is going. I mean, even if it is quiet in Rednal & Cofton Hackett, surely it could've just been cut short at Longbridge or something?

Maybe the X21 extended to Northfield to cover the Uni to Northfield section? Though I dunno what the demand is like for that...
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

Stu

Quote from: MasterPlan on August 03, 2021, 07:17:49 PM
I still can't believe the X20 is going. I mean, even if it is quiet in Rednal & Cofton Hackett, surely it could've just been cut short at Longbridge or something?

Maybe the X21 extended to Northfield to cover the Uni to Northfield section? Though I dunno what the demand is like for that...

As has already been pointed out, there is apparently a new 20 service, which will operate between QE Hospital and Cofton Hackett, presumably partially replacing the X20.

I don't know anymore than anyone else does.

The people who know what changes are taking place, they either don't participate in this forum, or they simply can't say yet.

When the changes are ready to be announced, they will be done so on the NX Bus and TfWM websites, and then all will be revealed.

I do hope this is done sooner rather than later though, in order to give passengers time to adapt and plan ahead.

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