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Service Changes August 29th 2021.

Started by 2206, July 15, 2021, 04:42:14 PM

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BBS

Quote from: MasterPlan on July 15, 2021, 10:18:45 PM
The '20' baffles me the most. Is there a reliability issue with the X20 or something? As it's not like nobody uses it.
i agree X20 has good demand but not sure what the combined authority are up to
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

Gareth

Quote from: bbs on July 15, 2021, 10:21:28 PM
i agree X20 has good demand but not sure what the combined authority are up to

What's the combined authority got to do with it? X20 I believe is a fully commercial route run by NX.

BBS

Quote from: Gareth on July 15, 2021, 10:33:24 PM
What's the combined authority got to do with it? X20 I believe is a fully commercial route run by NX.
X20 not sure really.
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

SO6597

The changes in South Bham may be part of a bigger picture? The proposed cross-city routes showed Longbridge and Frankley as being the terminus points on the south side. Perhaps the focus is on putting in place local connecting services prior to moving towards the cross-city phase?

Pat

Quote from: bbs on July 15, 2021, 10:09:48 PM
1A is going to be 41? and 31 being cancelled? strange should of cancelled the 32 or at least make it replace 31
31 is only part subsidised, whereas 32 is fully subsidised.  The people who pay the subsidy make the decisions.  Operators can't just cancel, or change the route.

2206

#20
Quote from: SO6597 on July 15, 2021, 10:46:00 PM
The changes in South Bham may be part of a bigger picture? The proposed cross-city routes showed Longbridge and Frankley as being the terminus points on the south side. Perhaps the focus is on putting in place local connecting services prior to moving towards the cross-city phase?
How does cutting X20 short of the City Centre improve anything though? Surely makes the service less atractive to passengers?
Unless something is still not clear and there are further changes?


Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

SO6597

Quote from: 2206 on July 15, 2021, 10:52:39 PM
How does cutting X20 short of the City Centre improve anything though? Surely makes the service less atractive to passengers?
Unless something is still not clear and there are further changes?

I'm not surprised that the X20 looks like it is changing. It's heavily used from Bham to Selly Oak but the loadings usually look light once it goes beyond Northfield and the Longbridge - Cofton Hackett section is even quieter. Be interesting to see if it is withdrawn completely or just cut back to somewhere like Selly Oak. The new road layout by the triangle lends itself well to a new terminal point. 

2206

#22
Quote from: SO6597 on July 15, 2021, 11:09:35 PM
Be interesting to see if it is withdrawn completely or just cut back to somewhere like Selly Oak. The new road layout by the triangle lends itself well to a new terminal point.
If the X20 journeys were cut back to Selly Oak they'd probably just be renumbered as X21's.
If it is that badly used south of Selly Oak, what would the point of the new commercial 20 be?


Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

BBS

Quote from: Pat on July 15, 2021, 10:50:49 PM
31 is only part subsidised, whereas 32 is fully subsidised.  The people who pay the subsidy make the decisions.  Operators can't just cancel, or change the route.
So what will replace where the 31 went?
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

Jack

Quote from: bbs on July 15, 2021, 11:24:03 PM
So what will replace where the 31 went?
Maybe this 41 will play a part...

metrocity

Quote from: Tony on July 15, 2021, 08:56:51 PM
And some of the routes marked as cancelled, TfWM have asked to continue
On a commercial basis I presume ?

BBS

Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

Jack D

Or an extension to 58 as it interworks anyway?

BBS

Quote from: Jack D on July 16, 2021, 01:31:18 PM
Or an extension to 58 as it interworks anyway?
i dont think 58 will come acocks green and go via shirley  to solihull
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

ellspurs

Quote from: bbs on July 16, 2021, 03:38:36 PM
i dont think 58 will come acocks green and go via shirley  to solihull

Ah, I remember when the 71 used to do Acocks Green to Sutton Coldfield via Solihull and Chelmsley Wood.

That's now basically the

71 Sutton Coldfield to Chelmsley Wood
72 Chelmsley Wood to Solihull
A12 Solihull to Acocks Green.

Riding the Lynxs on that full route was always fun.

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