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Started by bususer28, December 22, 2020, 01:35:43 PM

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ellspurs

Newbridge Road has had a bus service along there for at least the last 30 years. Whenever I've been along there (and when I've used the stops on there myself), there were people waiting for the bus (even more so when it used to be the 99 going down there).

Just let the 28A be one of the tender services that rarely gets used, like the 34 and 53. I'm actually sat here thinking if there is an area closer to the city centre that isn't served by a bus that is going to/from the city centre, as I can't think of one at the moment.

2206

#31
Quote from: ellspurs on December 24, 2020, 05:57:14 PM
Newbridge Road has had a bus service along there for at least the last 30 years. Whenever I've been along there (and when I've used the stops on there myself), there were people waiting for the bus (even more so when it used to be the 99 going down there).
If there are a lot of users on Newbrdige Road, what about this instead for 73?
Yew Tree to Heartlands via - Church Road, Coventry Road, Heybarnes Road, Newbridge Road, Yardley Green Road, Blake Lane, Bordesley Green?
As 17 already serves Hob Moor Road? 

Then possibly Belchers Lane, Cotterills Lane, Stechford Lane. Then Brockhurst Road, Bromford Road, looping Bromford. Replacing the bus off the 25 route and 73 using 25/28A subsidy.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Busboy105

Quote from: 2206 on December 24, 2020, 06:04:35 PM
What about this instead for 73?
Yew Tree to Heartlands via - Church Road, Coventry Road, Heybarnes Road, Newbridge Road, Yardley Green Road, Blake Lane, Bordesley Green?
As 17 already serves Hob Moor Road? 

Then possibly Belchers Lane, Cotterills Lane, Stechford Lane. Then Brockhurst Road, Bromford Road, looping Bromford. Replacing the bus off the 25 route and 73 using 25/28A subsidy.
What about the people on HMR who want to to go to Heartlands?

2206

#33
Quote from: Busboy105 on December 24, 2020, 06:18:38 PM
What about the people on HMR who want to to go to Heartlands?
17 to Blake Lane and change for new 73 route. I'd put a new stops on Yardley Green Road/Blake Lane, etc to improve connections as well so they stop  as close to each other as possible.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

PB2938

For the 28 to serve Scott Arms Sundays and Evenings the most viable way would be to run

28 Scott Arms - Bordesley Green
28A Dyas Road - Small Heath

Both services running Hourly joint frequency of every 30 minutes that should not increase operations cost.
952A Rugeley
Via Great Barr,  Walsall, Cheslyn Hay, Cannock, Heath Hayes and Hednesford

ellspurs

Quote from: 2206 on December 24, 2020, 06:04:35 PM
If there are a lot of users on Newbrdige Road, what about this instead for 73?
Yew Tree to Heartlands via - Church Road, Coventry Road, Heybarnes Road, Newbridge Road, Yardley Green Road, Blake Lane, Bordesley Green?
As 17 already serves Hob Moor Road? 

Then possibly Belchers Lane, Cotterills Lane, Stechford Lane. Then Brockhurst Road, Bromford Road, looping Bromford. Replacing the bus off the 25 route and 73 using 25/28A subsidy.

You know what? Just combining the 25 and 28A would do it.

Quote from: PB2938 on December 24, 2020, 07:14:01 PM
For the 28 to serve Scott Arms Sundays and Evenings the most viable way would be to run

28 Scott Arms - Bordesley Green
28A Dyas Road - Small Heath

Both services running Hourly joint frequency of every 30 minutes that should not increase operations cost.

This too, as it is similar to how the route ran in the late 90s/early 00s, when 28 did Small Heath - Scott Arms (Dyas Road at night) and 28A Heartlands Hospital - Perry Barr. Accounts for the requested Dyas Road - Scott Arms link as well.

2206

#36
Quote from: ellspurs on December 24, 2020, 07:43:36 PM
You know what? Just combining the 25 and 28A would do it.
73 would have a better frequency though I was thinking, so would probably offer a better service as a replacement for the 28A on Heybarnes Rd, etc. Especially if you could probably do a Heartlands - Bromford section with just 1 extra bus (displaced off the 25/28A).
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Jack

#37
Quote from: ellspurs on December 24, 2020, 07:43:36 PM
This too, as it is similar to how the route ran in the late 90s/early 00s, when 28 did Small Heath - Scott Arms (Dyas Road at night) and 28A Heartlands Hospital - Perry Barr. Accounts for the requested Dyas Road - Scott Arms link as well.
Most of the elderly here do miss the 28A (628 in its last months), especially for the fact it was a quick easy route for them do their shopping. It's a shame this link wasn't tendered during Mon-Sat daytimes, it is missed by many and its a much nicer and safer option than the 52 because the 28A meant people didn't have to walk through the grotty subways where it isn't safe when the 28A terminated in the supposedly 'bus station'. Though who knows when this 7 lane road will open... Before anyone goes 'it won't be used' well sorry but you have routes like the 53 and 424 etc.

I mean its funny 11 years ago this estate had loads of services and now theres only 3...

Also I'm surprised the 424 is still going round in its current long form, if Claribels lose the tender I can see it being chopped and changed into various little routes and some parts not being reused because of low patronage.

PB2938

The 28A to one stop Perry Barr could be reintroduced. As the 28 is a frequent 12 minute service just send every other 28 to Scott Arms then 28A to One Stop. When the 952 was withdrawn an idea could of been reroute 997E To PHEASEY Journeys via Perry Beeches. With the 28A maintaining the One Stop link. 

Passengers wanting Scott Arms can easily change to frequent 51 X51 every 5 minutes at Walsall Rosd.
952A Rugeley
Via Great Barr,  Walsall, Cheslyn Hay, Cannock, Heath Hayes and Hednesford

BBS

Quote from: Busboy105 on December 24, 2020, 03:12:26 PM
He wants the 28A to go to NX then extend both of them to the City Centre.
It's a terrible idea considering how much longer and unreliable the 28 would become plus the 60 does an ok job serving Coventry Road at a higher frequency.
Hmm you are right... Normally i see a 28 just parked in the middle of the small heath highway.

Tony

Quote from: bbs on December 25, 2020, 08:15:08 PM
Hmm you are right... Normally i see a 28 just parked in the middle of the small heath highway.


28s Never park in the middle of Small Heath Highway. It would be extremely dangerous

Busboy105

Quote from: Tony on December 25, 2020, 08:23:01 PM

28s Never park in the middle of Small Heath Highway. It would be extremely dangerous
Probably mixed up Small Heath Highway with Bordesley Green East.

ellspurs

Another thing that has to be considered for the 28A is that it looks like Bolton Road has been made one-way this year to allow a cycle lane to be put up the other side of it (Sept 2020 Google Street view). Google is showing it as from the Arthur Street junction all the way around to Vann Close (past the Small Heath Bridge) so that would have to be factored in if any other bus was sent through there as a through service and not a looping service.

BBS

Quote from: Tony on December 25, 2020, 08:23:01 PM

28s Never park in the middle of Small Heath Highway. It would be extremely dangerous
Nah i do you know where the left part is it parks there and randomly puts hazards on. i havent seen one yet now the only time i seen was last month. They parked on the side of some factory next to the highway.I wondered why drivers did this.

Tony

Quote from: bbs on December 27, 2020, 05:58:16 PM
Nah i do you know where the left part is it parks there and randomly puts hazards on. i havent seen one yet now the only time i seen was last month. They parked on the side of some factory next to the highway.I wondered why drivers did this.

I have no idea where or what you are on about.

It has gone from Normally, to just once no where near where the route goes

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