28 / 28A ideas

[bususer28]

How would you serve it, out of interest?

For me an extension of the 28 seems the most logical.

[Tony]

For me an extension of the 28 seems the most logical.

Just one bus will cost over £100,000 per year so I very much doubt it is anywhere near viable

[Steve3229vp]

Just one bus will cost over £100,000 per year so I very much doubt it is anywhere near viable

Agree 100%, as a passenger on the 28 (not in Covid times) the 28 does not need an extension back to Small Heath in the daytime, it would wreck it's reliability.

[karl724223]

The pensnett 28 is a bostin little run yow leave it aloon

[BBS]

What they should do is make the 28A go to NXWM.Then extend the 28 and 28A to birmingham following the 60.Omnilinks will have the 28/28A branding too. Birmingham to Old Scott or wherever they go.

[Steve3229vp]

What they should do is make the 28A go to NXWM.Then extend the 28 and 28A to birmingham following the 60.Omnilinks will have the 28/28A branding too. Birmingham to Old Scott or wherever they go.

Could you re-write this in english please ?

[Busboy105]

Could you re-write this in english please ?

He wants the 28A to go to NX then extend both of them to the City Centre.
It's a terrible idea considering how much longer and unreliable the 28 would become plus the 60 does an ok job serving Coventry Road at a higher frequency.

[Steve3229vp]

He wants the 28A to go to NX then extend both of them to the City Centre.
It's a terrible idea considering how much longer and unreliable the 28 would become plus the 60 does an ok job serving Coventry Road at a higher frequency.

I agree entirely.
I do remember back in the 1990's I was in the old WM Travelshop on Colmore Row and I used to talk to the people there often and there was an idea at the time to make the 28 into a 'North Circle' (before the 68 becoming the North Circle). The idea was for the 28 to run Small heath to Perry Beeches, then replacing the 52 to City, then as the then 99 to Small Heath. I would think the Scott Arms part would have been taken over by the 406 maybe which might have also served Booth's Farm.

[Jack]

How they don't send the 28 through here at evenings and sundays is a joke but they can do an extension in Small Health where at night I doubt theres little need.

I'd send every other 28 through Beeches and Scott Arms during the evenings and sundays as it doesn't need to be frequent but a bus every half hour to here would make sense and would be used.

And I can also confirm the people ask very often if the 28 serves Beeches and Scott Arms during the evenings, it would also work on a sunday with a bus every half hour or every 20 minutes.

For the Small Heath part I'd extend the 73 to do the route from Heartlands to Small Heath, I mean it is pretty easy and obvious.

And whoever suggested the 28 going to the City you may as well say bugger all because the current frequency is a joke and the lateness is also a joke. It really could do with being double deckers again however if its going to be up to 10 mins it may change, but doubt it and I also think if you was to send it to City split it into two or three routes because its not far for people at one end of the route (Scott Arms/Beeches etc) to be waiting because a quarter of the buses ate stuck in rush hour in Small Heath...

[2206]

For the Small Heath part I'd extend the 73 to do the route from Heartlands to Small Heath, I mean it is pretty easy and obvious.

Or reroute it Church Road, Coventry Road, Heybarnes Road, Hob Moor Road, Yardley Green Road, Little Bromwich Road, Bordesley Green East.

I've checked 36 timetable at current frequency is every 45 minutes. So think an extension via Golden Hillock Road, Waverley Road, Oldknow Road, Coventry Road, Arthur Street, Bolton Road, Jenkin Street, Camelot Way, Golden Hillock Road. Could possibly be done. With a reduced hourly frequency. With 0 requirement for extra vehicles.

Could also possibly split it at Acocks Green so its not such a long convulted route.
36 Heartlands - Acocks Green.
37 Small Heath - Acocks Green. Both hourly.

[Busboy105]

How they don't send the 28 through here at evenings and sundays is a joke but they can do an extension in Small Health where at night I doubt theres little need.

I'd send every other 28 through Beeches and Scott Arms during the evenings and sundays as it doesn't need to be frequent but a bus every half hour to here would make sense and would be used.

And I can also confirm the people ask very often if the 28 serves Beeches and Scott Arms during the evenings, it would also work on a sunday with a bus every half hour or every 20 minutes.

For the Small Heath part I'd extend the 73 to do the route from Heartlands to Small Heath, I mean it is pretty easy and obvious.

And whoever suggested the 28 going to the City you may as well say bugger all because the current frequency is a joke and the lateness is also a joke. It really could do with being double deckers again however if its going to be up to 10 mins it may change, but doubt it and I also think if you was to send it to City split it into two or three routes because its not far for people at one end of the route (Scott Arms/Beeches etc) to be waiting because a quarter of the buses ate stuck in rush hour in Small Heath...

The Small Heath bit is a tender I believe so there's that. I'm surprised it's lasted this long considering there's only 3-4 passengers max whenever I see it.

[Busboy105]

Or reroute it Church Road, Coventry Road, Heybarnes Road, Hob Moor Road, Yardley Green Road, Little Bromwich Road, Bordesley Green East.

I've checked 36 timetable at current frequency is 45 minutes. So think an extension via Golden Hillock Road, Coventry Road, Arthur Street, Bolton Road, Jenkin Street, Camelot Way, Golden Hillock Road. Could be done. With a reduced hourly frequency. With 0 requirement for extra vehicles.

The 36's probably the better option considering Newbridge Road will lose a bus service to Yardley and beyond.

[2206]

The 36's probably the better option considering Newbridge Road will lose a bus service to Yardley and beyond.

It looks like only the 1 stop on Newbridge Road wouldn't see service anymore. Even then Google Maps says 4 minute walk to Hob Moor Road/Yardley Green Road, so possibly would be within a reasonable walking distance of alternative stops?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Heybarnes+Rd/Recreation+Ground,+Birmingham+B9+5JE/@52.4723231,-1.8311955,16z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x4870bbab4c13fbdf:0x3ceb7571e752e5dd!2m2!1d-1.829908!2d52.470737!1m5!1m1!1s0x4870ba5501708215:0x6222f11f598c4cf6!2m2!1d-1.826942!2d52.472561

[Busboy105]

It looks like only the 1 stop on Newbridge Road wouldn't see service anymore. Even then Google Maps says 4 minute walk to Hob Moor Road/Yardley Green Road, so possibly would be within a reasonable walking distance of alternative stops?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Heybarnes+Rd/Recreation+Ground,+Birmingham+B9+5JE/@52.4723231,-1.8311955,16z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x4870bbab4c13fbdf:0x3ceb7571e752e5dd!2m2!1d-1.829908!2d52.470737!1m5!1m1!1s0x4870ba5501708215:0x6222f11f598c4cf6!2m2!1d-1.826942!2d52.472561

True but wouldn't most people prefer a bus that's closer to them rather than walking a few minutes to catch other?

[2206]

True but wouldn't most people prefer a bus that's closer to them rather than walking a few minutes to catch other?

They probably would, but at the same time i'd think not everyone can have a service that stops directly by them and outside their door either.
Either way wouldn't be the first street to lose its service, Drews Lane & Highfield Road, etc.