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Started by Pat, November 30, 2019, 06:32:01 PM

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richardjones210368

Quote from: midlandred2003 on December 06, 2019, 09:16:50 AM
A earlier 4M from blackheath to merry hill would be benifit all the staff working there who start at between 5&6am.
Ok I will raise the matter at the next meeting on the 28th Jan & raise the matter with NXWM management about a commercial option or to TfWM if the 14A tender could be tweeked

Tony

Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 06, 2019, 08:37:18 AM
I have only ever seen one on it once & that was well over a year ago it was a funny sight and yes its always the 8** ones know.

Walsall have never used a mini on the full 4H. PN may have done on the Sunday or Late night short journies

richardjones210368

Quote from: Tony on December 06, 2019, 09:36:46 AM
Walsall have never used a mini on the full 4H. PN may have done on the Sunday or Late night short journies
Yes Tony I was taking about the one that used to come off the 241 in Halesowen Bus Station it was equally strange to see a Trident leave completly empty with 4H Hayley Green I use the the 241/14 after 8pm regulary as its our only bus to Blackheath at this time & the bus came in as a 4H & went out as a 241.

winston

Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 06, 2019, 09:41:08 AM
Yes Tony I was taking about the one that used to come off the 241 in Halesowen Bus Station it was equally strange to see a Trident leave completly empty with 4H Hayley Green I use the the 241/14 after 8pm regulary as its our only bus to Blackheath at this time & the bus came in as a 4H & went out as a 241.

My old man always comments about the 4H just before midnight that's double decker with no one board, have to explain the reason behind it.

richardjones210368

Quote from: Winston on December 06, 2019, 12:16:00 PM
My old man always comments about the 4H just before midnight that's double decker with no one board, have to explain the reason behind it.
It used to come of the 241 which was usually a Trident know I only usually see B7s & E200s now on the 14 so that ones a mystery.

Lukeee

Going slightly of topic I didn't know PN ran journeys on the 4H, which journeys do they run (assuming it's to reduce dead milage)

richardjones210368

Quote from: Lukeee on December 06, 2019, 01:16:06 PM
Going slightly of topic I didn't know PN ran journeys on the 4H, which journeys do they run (assuming it's to reduce dead milage)
The Evening & Sunday Shorts on the Hasbury Circle

Trident 4609

#187
Quote from: Lukeee on December 06, 2019, 01:16:06 PM
Going slightly of topic I didn't know PN ran journeys on the 4H, which journeys do they run (assuming it's to reduce dead milage)

They literally run off the back off 14's evening and Sundays. They do Halesowen to Hayley Green and back (there are a couple of early morning trips as well). The double deckers during the evening are due to several 14's coming off 12 & 126 boards respectively (well at last check they did, certainly one is off a 126 all week, and one of the Sunday night trips comes off a 12, might be the case rest of the week too)

richardjones210368

#188
Quote from: Nathan on December 06, 2019, 03:05:47 PM
They literally run off the back off 14's evening and Sundays. They do Halesowen to Hayley Green and back (there are a couple of early morning trips as well). The double deckers during the evening are due to several 14's coming off 12 & 126 boards respectively (well at last check they did, certainly one is off a 126 all week, and one of the Sunday night trips comes off a 12, might be the case rest of the week too)
Thats good to know Nathan cheers I did wonder how I ended up with Platty on the 14 a few weeks ago on the 2015 ex Dudley.

Trident 4194

Quote from: Nathan on December 06, 2019, 03:05:47 PM
They literally run off the back off 14's evening and Sundays. They do Halesowen to Hayley Green and back (there are a couple of early morning trips as well). The double deckers during the evening are due to several 14's coming off 12 & 126 boards respectively (well at last check they did, certainly one is off a 126 all week, and one of the Sunday night trips comes off a 12, might be the case rest of the week too)

Yh I've had a 4H at night where the driver then goes onto a 14 to Dudley and then 126 to Birmingham. Although haven't been on a late night 4H for a while

Sh4318

Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 05, 2019, 01:45:17 PM
The days of the 128 & 129 are long gone I know Stuart Road very well all my relatives are buried in St Giles and I was baptized and confirmed there it had the 238 every 20 mins at one point but honestly when I am on the 3A I cannot remember when I saw any one get on or off on it. Bell End, Spies Lane, Kent Road & Perry Park have all seen frequency reductions without a massive outcry increasing the main service up Hanover Road would surely be preferable and the little E200s on the 14 would help the drivers with the horrendous double parking in Stuart Road.

Stuart Road has seen ALX400s, Gemini's, Metrobuses, Tridents, E400s running along it, without much bother. Still doesn't justify cutting the frequency
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

richardjones210368

#191
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 07, 2019, 12:15:24 AM
Stuart Road has seen ALX400s, Gemini's, Metrobuses, Tridents, E400s running along it, without much bother. Still doesn't justify cutting the frequency
Well the Scania 3A I was on.got stuck on Monday with the double parking and that happens on most journeys  I use the route  once  a week and cant remember the last time anyone got on in Stuart Rd so why keep the staus quo when I never see anyone boarding or alighting in Stuart Rd  if you know different let me know thats fine the buses you quote are historic from the 129 & 238 & are of no relevance in 2019 .

Sh4318

Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 07, 2019, 12:31:53 AM
Well the Scania 3A I was on.got stuck on Monday with the double parking and that happens on most journeys  I use the route  once  a week and cant remember the last time anyone got on in Stuart Rd so why keep the staus quo when I never see anyone boarding or alighting in Stuart Rd  if you know different let me know thats fine the buses you quote are historic from the 129 & 238 & are of no relevance in 2019 .

If Stuart Rd wasn't used, it wouldn't be served. The only difference between the 3 and 3A between West Bromwich and Blackheath is that the 3A serves Stuart Road and the 3 serves Portway
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

richardjones210368

#193
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 07, 2019, 12:47:31 AM
If Stuart Rd wasn't used, it wouldn't be served. The only difference between the 3 and 3A between West Bromwich and Blackheath is that the 3A serves Stuart Road and the 3 serves Portway
My comments were to axe the 3A and make the 3 every 20 mins to Merry Hill & have the E200 minis rerouted on.the 14 to serve Stuart Rd to help the drivers negotiate such an difficult road with the 14A doing Bell End in reverse and match demand to those using it I comment as a regular user who wants the best for the operators and passengers of Blackheath
Perry Park, Bell End and Kent Road have all coped with an hourly service so why wouldnt Stuart Rd for the benefit of all?

Jack

Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 07, 2019, 12:57:29 AM
My comments were to axe the 3A and make the 3 every 20 mins to Merry Hill & have the E200 minis rerouted on.the 14 to serve Stuart Rd to help the drivers negotiate such an difficult road with the 14A doing Bell End in reverse and match demand to those using it I comment as a regular user who wants the best for the operators and passengers of Blackheath
Perry Park, Bell End and Kent Road have all coped with an hourly service so why wouldnt Stuart Rd for the benefit of all?
I agree with you there, or you could make the 3A a circular service covering Throne Road, Stuart Road, Hanover Road, Rowley Village, Bell End/Mincing Lane, Oldbury Road and back into Throne Road, every 30 mins. And increase the 3 to every 20 mins. Tbf I don't see why they couldn't of put the 8** E200's on the 3A, and displace Omnilinks onto the more frequent 3 and onto the 49 which does see more Deckers now.

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