West Bromwich Garage

[Ash]

I wonder in time if the 4 will ever be upgraded to double d

ecker operation

The reason the 4/H/M don't get deckers is something about the route back to garage has a low bridge or something if i correctly read on here?

Yes. deckers used to be banned on the 311/3 because a bus lost its roof when the driver went the wrong way (for deckers) back to garage.

Only way to put Deckers on the 4 would be to transfer it to WB (no chance) or PE (not really much chance either)

The way back to the garage on the 4 is from Blackheath/West Bromwich via the normal route then right at the fullbrook along the broadway to the arboretum over the lights straight on and then turn right via the 301 route back to the garage so no low bridges so double deckers could be used. 

[Trident 4609]

I swear 4869 was reported on the 4M some months back

[Ash]

I swear 4869 was reported on the 4M some months back

Yeah I think it was, the 4 gets busy enough especially on the 4M on sundays with the 289 not going to Merry Hill and leave 3 vehicles needed for the sunday 4 being omnilinks. Would be good to see the occasional trident, gemini or enviro 400 to appear.

[Trident 4609]

I swear 4869 was reported on the 4M some months back

Yeah I think it was, the 4 gets busy enough especially on the 4M on sundays with the 289 not going to Merry Hill and leave 3 vehicles needed for the sunday 4 being omnilinks. Would be good to see the occasional trident, gemini or enviro 400 to appear.

Well there are plenty of tridents at WA spare as i never seem to see them out on Sundays. Do WA's tridents even operate Sundays and if so which routes as i never see them appear apart from the odd appearence on the 997?

[Trident 4609]

One quick question, Why is the 289 sunday service operated by WB? Shouldn't they just operate it from there full time?

[Ash]

Due to the 53 not being operated by NXWM on a sunday so it cant be interworked with it so has to be operated by WB to allow driver changes at West Bromwich allowing the 289 to be operated on a sunday as a single route. The 53 on a sunday is operated by diamond between Bearwood and West Bromwich only.

[Trident 4609]

Due to the 53 not being operated by NXWM on a sunday so it cant be interworked so has to be operated by WB to allow driver changes

Do the 53/289 still interwork then even after the 289 was curtailed to Old Hiill?

[nitromatt1]

Yeah like Ash said, the 289 no longer goes to any of the 3 PN driver changeover points (Stourbridge, Merry Hill, Dudley), it's alright when it interworks with the 53 Mon-Sat as drivers can change over at Merry Hill on the 53 (I believe) but when it works on its own on Sunday it now needs to be operated by WB so drivers can change at West Bromwich

[Ash]

Yeah your right nitromatt they change drivers at Merry Hill and usually the 53 and 289 change services at West Brom so a 53 will come in and go out as a 289 and vice versa.

[Trident 4609]

Yeah your right nitromatt they change drivers at Merry Hill and usually the 53 and 289 change services at West Brom so a 53 will come in and go out as a 289 and vice versa.

Would it make sense operating the 53/289 just from West Brom Garage (probably a bad idea)? Anyway thanks for the info Ash and Matt :)

[Sh4318]

Yeah your right nitromatt they change drivers at Merry Hill and usually the 53 and 289 change services at West Brom so a 53 will come in and go out as a 289 and vice versa.

Would it make sense operating the 53/289 just from West Brom Garage (probably a bad idea)? Anyway thanks for the info Ash and Matt :)

I don't think there is enough capacity for WB to take both routes on, hence their permanent move to PE only. I still think the 289 should move to WB, it only uses 4 buses

[Sh4318]

One quick question, Why is the 289 sunday service operated by WB? Shouldn't they just operate it from there full time?

It only operates using one bus on Sundays, last time I saw it on Sunday, 813 was on there ;)

[Trident 4609]

One quick question, Why is the 289 sunday service operated by WB? Shouldn't they just operate it from there full time?

It only operates using one bus on Sundays, last time I saw it on Sunday, 813 was on there ;)

Thanks for that Shaun :)

[uniquicity]

One quick question, Why is the 289 sunday service operated by WB? Shouldn't they just operate it from there full time?

It only operates using one bus on Sundays, last time I saw it on Sunday, 813 was on there ;)

You can't just move the 289 as it interworks with the 53. It would require a timetable change to uninterwork them. And the routes may not be viable that way with regard to the timings.

[uniquicity]

FAO Ash.

1613 is still in service, on the 42/43.