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Dudley Network Review

Started by sonic84, September 29, 2017, 07:42:37 PM

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Trident 4194

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2017, 12:50:02 PM
The one idea they don't appear to have come up with is splitting the 9, the route between Halesowen and Birmingham is a lot busier than the Stourbridge - Halesowen part.

You clearly haven't seen some of the loadings especially when colleges finish

Kevin

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2017, 12:50:02 PM
The one idea they don't appear to have come up with is splitting the 9, the route between Halesowen and Birmingham is a lot busier than the Stourbridge - Halesowen part.

Mostly focusing on Dudley routes in this though aren't they?
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Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 09, 2017, 02:56:11 PM
You clearly haven't seen some of the loadings especially when colleges finish

But how many of those travel past Halesowen?  Plus the college loadings are at one particular part of the day.
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Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2017, 12:50:02 PM
The one idea they don't appear to have come up with is splitting the 9, the route between Halesowen and Birmingham is a lot busier than the Stourbridge - Halesowen part.

The Hagley Road Sprint route (when it eventually launches) will make the 9 less busy. ;)
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Stuharris 6360

Tbh, the way it's going, can you ever see it launching?
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Sh4318

Quote from: Kevin on October 09, 2017, 07:43:52 AM
You say that. I'd say the 4M would support a 15 mins frequency

That's a fair argument. I wouldn't know myself, I never see it
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"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

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Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2017, 12:50:02 PM
The one idea they don't appear to have come up with is splitting the 9, the route between Halesowen and Birmingham is a lot busier than the Stourbridge - Halesowen part.

Wasnt Brum to Halesowen the original route before it got linked with the 130 years ago?

Steve3229vp

Quote from: Westy on October 09, 2017, 07:49:23 PM
Wasnt Brum to Halesowen the original route before it got linked with the 130 years ago?
The 9 was originally City to Quinton

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Steve3229vp on October 09, 2017, 07:51:48 PM
The 9 was originally City to Quinton

That's right terminating just past the cinema in Quinton in the pull in.
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OH25

With talks of changing/getting rid of the 127/140/241, would it be worth making these routes in between Dudley and Blackheath for both into a circular route.

Let's call it D1 and D2 for now
D1 going the 140/241 route from Dudley to Blackheath and then back to Dudley via the 127 route
and the D2 doing the opposite way around

thoughts anyone?

Sh4318

Quote from: OH25 on October 09, 2017, 09:54:10 PM
With talks of changing/getting rid of the 127/140/241, would it be worth making these routes in between Dudley and Blackheath for both into a circular route.

Let's call it D1 and D2 for now
D1 going the 140/241 route from Dudley to Blackheath and then back to Dudley via the 127 route
and the D2 doing the opposite way around

thoughts anyone?

I get the feeling Dudley to Blackheath (127 route) isn't very profitable
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

Mike K

Quote from: OH25 on October 09, 2017, 09:54:10 PM
With talks of changing/getting rid of the 127/140/241, would it be worth making these routes in between Dudley and Blackheath for both into a circular route.

Let's call it D1 and D2 for now
D1 going the 140/241 route from Dudley to Blackheath and then back to Dudley via the 127 route
and the D2 doing the opposite way around

thoughts anyone?

Circular services in general just don't work - remember the ill fated and short-lived 87A/C and 89A/C?

Lukeee

Quote from: Mike K on October 09, 2017, 10:04:55 PM
Circular services in general just don't work - remember the ill fated and short-lived 87A/C and 89A/C?

Slightly of topic but I don't remember these, was it the full brum to dudley route as a circular or something else?

Mike K

Quote from: Lukeee on October 09, 2017, 10:08:59 PM
Slightly of topic but I don't remember these, was it the full brum to dudley route as a circular or something else?

No it was just the Old Hill end of the route that was a loop - I don't recall the exact details but after Dudley they did a loop around Old Hill, Timbertree and Cradley Heath. Lack of layover time tends to result in reliability issues on circulars.

Westy

Quote from: Mike K on October 09, 2017, 10:23:58 PM
No it was just the Old Hill end of the route that was a loop - I don't recall the exact details but after Dudley they did a loop around Old Hill, Timbertree and Cradley Heath. Lack of layover time tends to result in reliability issues on circulars.

Must admit I miss the old 370 / 371 Walsall Circulars, as it enabled me to go round from my bit of Leamore to Reedswood Retail Park without having to change in Walsall.

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