Hopes and expectations on the buses in 2017

[Ronnoc]

I predict new buses on the 51.

[monkeyjoe]

Sutton routes and Coventry rd are due another up grade this year.

[Steve3229vp]

Sutton routes and Coventry rd are due another up grade this year.

What do you mean "another upgrade" ?

[Trident 4194]

Sutton routes and Coventry rd are due another up grade this year.

17 plate buses for it😜. Those poor people not travelling on the newest buses out

[markcf83]

Sutton routes and Coventry rd are due another up grade this year.

First is very unlikely,second might have a chance.

[Sh4318]

I predict new buses on the 51.

33 & 51 would be ideal, to free up '61 reg Enviros

[Jack]

New buses for the 94. Would be nice to see some new vehicles on there.

[4679]

New buses for WB as we get all the crap from other garages.

[Gareth]

New buses for WB as we get all the crap from other garages.

You didn't notice a load of 14 and 64 plate double and single deckers parked up in WB then? 😜

[MW]

Walsall & Coventry are deserving of new vehicles in my opinion. Maybe to replace the 61/13/14/64 plate Enviros and have them move to Birmingham based garages to replace what's left of 4125-4395 within Birmingham. (Minus the Euro 4+ ALX400s of course)

[markcf83]

New buses for the 94. Would be nice to see some new vehicles on there.

Good shout.

[2206]

Walsall & Coventry are deserving of new vehicles in my opinion. Maybe to replace the 61/13/14/64 plate Enviros and have them move to Birmingham based garages to replace what's left of 4125-4395 within Birmingham. (Minus the Euro 4+ ALX400s of course)

The B7TL ALX400 are getting traps and getting a full Euro 6 upgrade. Some of the Y reg Tridents are already Euro 4 +. In Birmingham City Centre that just leaves the none Euro 4 + Y reg Tridents at Birmingham Central.

New buses for the 94. Would be nice to see some new vehicles on there.

Agreed. Unlikely, but would be nice to see the 11 get upgraded with some new vehicles.

[Jack]

Agreed. Unlikely, but would be nice to see the 11 get upgraded with some new vehicles.

The only problem with trying to upgrade the 11, is its the high PVR.

[MW]

The B7TL ALX400 are getting traps and getting a full Euro 6 upgrade. Some of the Y reg Tridents are already Euro 4 +. In Birmingham City Centre that just leaves the none Euro 4 + Y reg Tridents at Birmingham Central.

Yeah I know which is why I said minus all the Euro 4+ ones. Isn't it just some of the 4225-4304 batch being done? I can't imagine the AG ones being done. They rarely visit the City Centre as you will know.

[twb1979]

Keeping older <Euro4 complaint vehicles on the Outer Circle 11 is actually quite wise as it provides fleet planners/managers somewhere to 'hide' these older buses as, the 11 keeps well away from Birmingham City Centre and the low emission zones.

Whilst the AG ones might not be frequent visitors to the City Centre, converted them to Euro6 complaint emissions might improved their resale and interest to second tier operators in their later lives, especially being single-door.

That said, some of the B7/ALX400's at PB that are regulars on the 65 and 67 seem on face value, very mechanically tired. It'll be interesting to see which ones are selected for upgrading.