Hollands Coaches of Kidderminster

[Reece]

PD1014764/1 - GEORGE RONALD MOLE & STEVEN JOHN MOLE T/A HOLLAND COACHES, PO BOX 175, KIDDERMINSTER, DY11 7RA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Kidderminster Bus Station and Cookley/Caunsall given service number 9/9A effective from 20-May-2016.

A true end of era Hollands looks to be pulling the 9 Kidderminster - Cookley they have been running this service since the early 1970s.  :'(
http://www.tan.gov.uk/tanen/vosa_selfserviceopbusregsearchresults_new.asp

[Cedric]

 Reece
anything about  Hollands only other service
CLOWS TOP – CLEOBURY MORTIMER 220   Via Mamble and Bayton                                       Service operated by Hollands Coaches

[Reece]

Reece
anything about  Hollands only other service
CLOWS TOP – CLEOBURY MORTIMER 220   Via Mamble and Bayton                                       Service operated by Hollands Coaches

It was withdrawn last year

[winston]

Is the 9/9A a commercial service or tendered?

[Reece]

Is the 9/9A a commercial service or tendered?

I am not aware of it being tendered directly but I think WCC gives Hollands some money towards the 9/9A. But as I say they have been running the service for so long Hollands and WCC might have some kind of long term deal.

[Stuharris 6360]

It was withdrawn last year

@Reece VOSA still show the service as registered and Traveline have a timetable for the 220, albeit just 1 trip each way on Wednesdays.

[winston]

I am not aware of it being tendered directly but I think WCC gives Hollands some money towards the 9/9A. But as I say they have been running the service for so long Hollands and WCC might have some kind of long term deal.

Does the service carry many passengers? I wonder if Diamond or another might provide a replacement service

[Reece]

Does the service carry many passengers? I wonder if Diamond or another might provide a replacement service

Well they use mini buses on the 9/9A the service is hourly and has some good loadings thought out the day as it is the only bus that servers the large village of Cookley and the smaller village of Caunsall.

[Cedric]

Does the service carry many passengers? I wonder if Diamond or another might provide a replacement service

If Diamonds  7 was extended  to turn right at the top of sion hill along  the wolverley road then left on to the A449  to serve cookley/caunsall . and returning along the a449  in to broadwaters  and the follow the current 7 route   that would  cover about 99% of the 9/9a  . as futher along the 7 route the routes run over same ground and the bit that would be missed  very lightly used

[Reece]

If Diamonds  7 was extended  to turn right at the top of sion hill along  the wolverley road then left on to the A449  to serve cookley/caunsall . and returning along the a449  in to broadwaters  and the follow the current 7 route   that would  cover about 99% of the 9/9a  . as futher along the 7 route the routes run over same ground and the bit that would be missed  very lightly used

One problem with that most journeys on the 7 only carry 1-5 passengers mainly passes. The only reason the 7 is commercially viable is because it interworks with the 192 which is actually commercially viable. If the 7 was extended to Cookley it would add at minimum a extra 20 mins to the journey time on a good day and that doesn't include serving Caunsall which would take another 10-15 mins to do and get back to Cookley. All together the extra journey time would be getting on for 30-40 mins with traffic and loading time. This in turn would mean the 7/192 which currently interworks would have to have a extra bus in the allocation and that means a extra bus and driver which Diamond Kidderminster depot just doesn't have. They can barely cover the services they have got it stretched to say the least at the moment.

[Cedric]

One problem with that most journeys on the 7 only carry 1-5 passengers mainly passes. The only reason the 7 is commercially viable is because it interworks with the 192 which is actually commercially viable. If the 7 was extended to Cookley it would add at minimum a extra 20 mins to the journey time on a good day and that doesn't include serving Caunsall which would take another 10-15 mins to do and get back to Cookley. All together the extra journey time would be getting on for 30-40 mins with traffic and loading time. This in turn would mean the 7/192 which currently interworks would have to have a extra bus in the allocation and that means a extra bus and driver which Diamond Kidderminster depot just doesn't have. They can barely cover the services they have got it stretched to say the least at the moment.

Reece 
when  I have seen the 7s they have more passengers   than  the number you say on ,

[RS]

Reece 
when  I have seen the 7s they have more passengers   than  the number you say on ,

ive seen one with full load

[Cedric]

ive seen one with full load

which a 9/9a  or  a 7   as a full load on the 9 /9a is only a small poration  of a full load on the 7.  RS  do you live in the wyre forest area 

[Reece]

which a 9/9a  or  a 7   as a full load on the 9 /9a is only a small poration  of a full load on the 7.  RS  do you live in the wyre forest area

I have never seen a 7 with a full load for example the last 7 of day yesterday only had 2 passengers the most I have ever seen on the 7 since it was taken over by Diamond is about 15-17 people and that was on a nice sunny day in the summer.

[RS]

which a 9/9a  or  a 7   as a full load on the 9 /9a is only a small poration  of a full load on the 7.  RS  do you live in the wyre forest area

No but n KD every Fridayy