Chiltern Railways

[Stuharris 6360]

Due to signalling problems between Leamington and Banbury this morning, Chiltern cancelled all there services out of Stourbridge and Kidderminster.

Now to me, why cancel the services when the trains were there, staff available, no problem on the line to Birmingham, surely they could have ran them between Kidderminster/Stourbridge and Birmingham, sending them back empty carriage stock, how many seats were lost on this line this morning because of this.

Am sure Chiltern don't really care about this end of the line!!!

[D10]

I know, certainly from Kidderminster the 0710, 0730 and 0809 departures form part of the AM peak commuter service on the Stourbrisge line and more passengers travel to Birmingham than onward towards Marylebone.

Not sure how these fit into Chilterns' franchise agreement though and if they are obligated to run the Stourbridge / Kidderminster extensions. Of course it would be no use asking West Midlands Trains to run these trips instead within the West Midlands as they would  not have the stock to do so.

[Sh4318]

I know, certainly from Kidderminster the 0710, 0730 and 0809 departures form part of the AM peak commuter service on the Stourbrisge line and more passengers travel to Birmingham than onward towards Marylebone.

Not sure how these fit into Chilterns' franchise agreement though and if they are obligated to run the Stourbridge / Kidderminster extensions. Of course it would be no use asking West Midlands Trains to run these trips instead within the West Midlands as they would  not have the stock to do so.

Pretty much. With the class 68/dvt/mark 3 coaches, regular line users tend to sit in the business zone until Snow Hill and then, either get off, or move into "standard class". With the class 168s, they can be rammed until Snow Hill, and heavily loaded to Solihull, where the train clears somewhat

[2206]

07:54 Chiltern Railways service to Solihull and London Marylebone from Birmingham Moor Street. Ran 77 minutes late this morning, turned up at 09:10. With other later departures delayed/cancelled (08:20 and 08:54) It left overcrowded.
Due to a fallen tree completely blocking the line in the Smethwick Galton Bridge area apparently.

[2206]

07:54 Chiltern Railways service to Solihull and London Marylebone from Birmingham Moor Street. Ran 77 minutes late this morning, turned up at 09:10. With other later departures delayed/cancelled (08:20 and 08:54) It left overcrowded.
Due to a fallen tree completely blocking the line in the Smethwick Galton Bridge area apparently.

15:54 cancelled, 16:17 also cancelled from Solihull to Kidderminster due to train crew shortage
16:13 to Dorridge also cancelled.
Can they not just run a reliable service between Dorridge and Platform 3 Moor Street. Seems to be a fair bit of disruption, with cancellations this evening as well.
Seems poor.

6842 on the X2 has also just left Solihull heavily overcrowded. Possibly because of how poor the trains are today.

[Trident 4194]

16:17 also cancelled from Solihull to Kidderminster.
Can they not just run a reliable service between Dorridge and Platform 3 Moor Street. Seems to be a dair bit of disruption, with cancellations this evening as well.
Seems poor.

What do you expect with the amount of flooding, and a tree which had fallen onto the line earlier? Weather conditions are not the fault of train operators, short staff however is

[markcf83]

I know, certainly from Kidderminster the 0710, 0730 and 0809 departures form part of the AM peak commuter service on the Stourbrisge line and more passengers travel to Birmingham than onward towards Marylebone.

Not sure how these fit into Chilterns' franchise agreement though and if they are obligated to run the Stourbridge / Kidderminster extensions. Of course it would be no use asking West Midlands Trains to run these trips instead within the West Midlands as they would  not have the stock to do so.

Don't some of the Chiltern units stable in or around Kidderminster?

[Sh4318]

Don't some of the Chiltern units stable in or around Kidderminster?

They do, and a few start from Kidderminster. The tree has been removed, but the line will probably be delayed for the rest of the day

[2206]

Don't some of the Chiltern units stable in or around Kidderminster?

Stourbridge.

[Trident 4194]

Due to come back from London tommorow on a hybrid set. Looked and this is silver carriages and commuter carriages together. So is this a class 68 paired with the likes of a 165?

[Tony]

Due to come back from London tommorow on a hybrid set. Looked and this is silver carriages and commuter carriages together. So is this a class 68 paired with the likes of a 165?

There's no such thing as a 'Hybrid' set on Chiltern

[Trident 4194]

There's no such thing as a 'Hybrid' set on Chiltern

Go on chiltern railways website and look at timetable and find the code H, it says hybrid sets

[Tony]

Go on chiltern railways website and look at timetable and find the code H, it says hybrid sets

The description says what it is.

165+168

[Trident 4194]

The description says what it is.

165+168

Where's it say that?

[Ian Hardy]

Notes & Symbols (on the back page of the CR timetable book):
"H    Hybrid train comprised of both silver and commuter carriages"

The class 168s are silver and the class 165s & class 171s are commuter. CR have not got enough Class 168 units to run all the MYB to OXF & BMO / BSW services with 168s only so CR couple a class 165 or 171 unit to a 168 unit.

I don't think that you could couple a Class 68 and MkIII coaches to a unit and run it in service. Also most CR platforms are not long enough for that anyway.

This website shows which CR services are operated by Class 68s:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/frequently-requested-diagrams.170615/#post-3665713