Chiltern Railways

[The Real 4778]

That's a real shame. Better than a lot of new trains

Really?  By what measure, please enlighten us!

[Bob]

Better legroom...Doors you can open yourself...opening windows..fresh air.....

[The Real 4778]

Better legroom...Doors you can open yourself...opening windows..fresh air.....

I'll give you three of those - the doors one isn't accurate though.

Problem is that the old DMUs are far worse in so many other areas:

Crashworthiness for vehicle, crew and pax
Emissions
Section running times
Route restrictions
Maintenance cost
Availability of spare parts
Traincrew familiarity
Accessibility
Fire performance
Multiple working capability


Still the end of an era though, and that's poignant in its way.

[Tony]

I'll give you three of those - the doors one isn't accurate though.

Problem is that the old DMUs are far worse in so many other areas:

Crashworthiness for vehicle, crew and pax
Emissions
Section running times
Route restrictions
Maintenance cost
Availability of spare parts
Traincrew familiarity
Accessibility
Fire performance
Multiple working capability


Still the end of an era though, and that's poignant in its way.

Legroom isnt any better either, when I travelled on the last day, it was full and everyone's leg's had to alternate with the person's opposite. They're fine when not full, but actual legroom is probably less than modern airline style seats, and certainly worse than taht under a table on a 153 or 170

[The Real 4778]

Legroom isnt any better either, when I travelled on the last day, it was full and everyone's leg's had to alternate with the person's opposite. They're fine when not full, but actual legroom is probably less than modern airline style seats, and certainly worse than taht under a table on a 153 or 170

LOL - yes I heard it was busy to say the least - I went about a month before the end to pay my respects, and there was a sizeable contingent of railwaymen enthusiasts aboard even then.

[V89MOA]

Two class 47s working today's 9:34 Moor St to Marylebone.

[Tony]

Two class 47s working today's 9:34 Moor St to Marylebone.

Should have been 47812 & 47813 (47848 is standby in case either fail), They are out all weekend providing extra capacity

[V89MOA]

Should have been 47812 & 47813 (47848 is standby in case either fail), They are out all weekend providing extra capacity

Can confirm it was 812 & 813, surprising the amount of enthusiasts who were there already!

[mikestone]

Chiltern have published a track access application to turn most, if not all, the existing weekend ECS to and from Stourbridge into passenger services.

[the trainbasher]

Chiltern have published a track access application to turn most, if not all, the existing weekend ECS to and from Stourbridge into passenger services.

Yes!!! Means that I won't have to rely on changing at Birmingham to London Midland when coming back from London

[BK63 YWP]

EVS?

[Roy]

Chiltern have published a track access application to turn most, if not all, the existing weekend ECS to and from Stourbridge into passenger services.

As reported on this thread on 12 May, it is all the ECS workings.  It's one extra service from Kidderminster to Marylebone on Saturday mornings, with three back to Kidderminster on Saturday evenings.  There are two Sunday morning services from Kidderminster to Marylebone with three back to Kidderminster on Sunday evenings.  Times are available on the Open Train Times website, but it does mean a slightly earlier first service into Birmingham on Sunday mornings.   The additional services stop at Stourbridge Junction, Cradley Heath (class 168 only) and Rowley Regis only.

[Sh4318]

EVS?

Guessing you mean ECS. Empty Coaching Stock

[Dylanbusboy45]

DVT 82302 is now carrying a Christmas themed vinyl wrap
See link below :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128470593@N05/27059121069/in/datetaken-public/

[Tony]

Class 82 DVT 82302 is now carrying a Christmas themed vinyl wrap
See link below :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128470593@N05/27059121069/in/datetaken-public/

A bit of pedantry, it is not a class 82. DVTs do not have class numbers, they are carriages.