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Started by wembley86, May 24, 2015, 04:45:30 PM

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BU07 LGO

Quote from: Tony on May 25, 2015, 07:55:19 PM
Yeh right! everybody just Walks away? That is why over £3/4million was paid in fines last year!

From my own experience everytine they get on my bus and remove someone they usually ask for Id and if they don't cooperate they let them walk away!

Tony

Quote from: BU07 LGO on May 25, 2015, 09:45:05 PM
From my own experience everytine they get on my bus and remove someone they usually ask for Id and if they don't cooperate they let them walk away!

Ask your manager if you could go out with Revenue for a couple of days, A lot of drivers have been allowed to, you will see a very different picture of how hard the job is and how they work. Yes people do walk, but a lot of quite hard work goes into trying to identify people or get money of people on the spot

BU07 LGO

Quote from: Tony on May 25, 2015, 09:58:11 PM
Ask your manager if you could go out with Revenue for a couple of days, A lot of drivers have been allowed to, you will see a very different picture of how hard the job is and how they work. Yes people do walk, but a lot of quite hard work goes into trying to identify people or get money of people on the spot

I appreciate how hard the job is, I defibateky wouldn't like to do it. I just think they need more power to "detain" people until they give satisfactory details.

Tony

Quote from: BU07 LGO on May 25, 2015, 10:08:03 PM
I appreciate how hard the job is, I defibateky wouldn't like to do it. I just think they need more power to "detain" people until they give satisfactory details.

Nobody except the police have that power

Stu

As a passenger, I've seen first-hand the great work that the revenue protection team does. It seems there are two levels though; sometimes the inspection team will just be a few inspectors, pulling people of buses for questioning, and other times there'll be a 'full-blown' team of inspectors, with police officers backing them up.

I fully support the work that is done, and I would also like to see more inspections taking place, I'd just like to see the locations being more varied, in order to catch more people unawares. There was a Facebook page/group where people would share the locations of the inspection teams on certain days in order to 'warn' fellow fare-dodgers, it didn't have many members admittedly, but it just goes to show the lengths some people will go to to 'extend' the validity of their Daysaver tickets.

The more fraudsters that can be caught the better, in my opinion. But not all are fraudsters let me add, there are some that make genuine mistakes. Many years ago, my sister was pulled off a bus in Cape Hill, because she was travelling into Birmingham on the old 88, but only had a Black Country Faresaver; bless her stupidity because she thought she'd only have to pay extra to get back from Brum. She promptly paid the fine without kicking up a fuss, and never made the same mistake again.

In my opinion, its the people who make the loudest noise when asked to leave a bus by an inspector who are clearly in the wrong, and I've seen this many a time.
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Slightly off topic, but how does the revenue inspector account for services that operate a 'day return' system?

I was on a 301 or 302 last week coming out of Walsall & the female inspector got on by the shops in Stafford Street & got this mother & 2 kids off.

Whether she was guilty or not, I don't really care, but surely the driver has to have a good memory?

BU07 LGO

Quote from: Tony on May 25, 2015, 10:15:51 PM
Nobody except the police have that power

@Tony surely its no different to a security guard in a shop as ultimately they are stealing?

Tony

Quote from: BU07 LGO on May 27, 2015, 10:46:20 PM
@Tony surely its no different to a security guard in a shop as ultimately they are stealing?

No, it comes under fraud and public service vehicle regulations.

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