New Buses 2016

[MW]

Exactly.  But we have several routes that could do with new DOUBLE DECK buses, to cascade SINGLE DECK buses to other routes, and dare I suggest it, cascade other SINGLE DECK buses to routes in Birmingham.

You won't send cast offs to Birmingham, unless there the Eclipse2's or Geminis.

[winston]

Exactly.  But we have several routes that could do with new DOUBLE DECK buses, to cascade SINGLE DECK buses to other routes, and dare I suggest it, cascade other SINGLE DECK buses to routes in Birmingham.

To be fair Dundee's single deck fleet will be fairly modern once the remaining B10L & B10BLE have been withdrawn.

Which routes are you suggesting would benefit from double deckers ?

[Tara4352]

They've still got solos

[Tony]

They've still got solos

Yes, but they will be replaced before the B10s, so Winston's statement is correct

[Kiewii]

The 15/17, 22, 28/29 could benefit from double deckers. Possibly the 32/33 too

[winston]

The 15/17, 22, 28/29 could benefit from double deckers. Possibly the 32/33 too

The trouble is, I doubt WM have much of a need for any cascaded single deckers from Dundee. Come the end of this year the oldest single decker at NXWM will be 56 plate B7RLE's assuming some stay.

[Tony]

The trouble is, I doubt WM have much of a need for any cascaded single deckers from Dundee. Come the end of this year the oldest single decker at NXWM will be 56 plate B7RLE's assuming some stay.

The Double deck to Single deck ratio will increase in the next few months at Dundee, so I suspect at least one of the routes will be converted

[GeminiFan1991]

Does anyone think that the 11A/C requires new buses ?! You'd think that the longest route is allocated buses which do a lot more than 6MPG (Presidents).

[MW]

Does anyone think that the 11A/C requires new buses ?! You'd think that the longest route is allocated buses which do a lot more than 6MPG (Presidents).

It's being upgraded into Geminis slowly but surely.

[Tony]

Does anyone think that the 11A/C requires new buses ?! You'd think that the longest route is allocated buses which do a lot more than 6MPG (Presidents).

Do you know how many MPG newer buses do?

[GeminiFan1991]

Do you know how many MPG newer buses do?

My apologies for not doing my homework but having read a small report on Reading Buses MMC's, they achieve ....... 6.3mpg  :-X

I genuinely thought especially all the Enviros they'd be hitting double figures at the very least. I'm somewhat shocked.

[j789]

Do you know how many MPG newer buses do?

I am pretty sure the Presidents do more than 6mpg. Fleetlines and similar did more than that without the newer engines. I think more like 12-15 would be likely.

[Trident 4194]

The 11 is the only route that the presidents are suited to due to emissions in city centre. However there are definitely more geminis appearing on the 11 now

[Ashley 60171]

The 11 is the only route that the presidents are suited to due to emissions in city centre. However there are definitely more geminis appearing on the 11 now

Not forgetting that they're on the 1, 73 and 966 as well.

[646]

I am pretty sure the Presidents do more than 6mpg. Fleetlines and similar did more than that without the newer engines. I think more like 12-15 would be likely.

Definitely not!