New Deliveries / New Livery & Branding Discussion

[paulb1973]

Fleetnumbers will be

E001-E019 (Yardley Wood)
E020-E029 (Coventry)

Not often have we seen alpha-numeric fleet identities (the old ex-Corporation fleets had a letter added to the end of their local fleet numbers) but I have a 1987 WMT fleet-list showing No's M1-M10, which were Ford Transit/Carlyle B55-64 AOP. I assume these became 555-564 though.

[BK63 YWP]

Not often have we seen alpha-numeric fleet identities (the old ex-Corporation fleets had a letter added to the end of their local fleet numbers) but I have a 1987 WMT fleet-list showing No's M1-M10, which were Ford Transit/Carlyle B55-64 AOP. I assume these became 555-564 though.

Wonder if NX does purchase Gas Buses (is the gas tank still at BC?) if they will have a fleet number G001 etc does make them stand out of a fleet list

[Busboy105]

BC for the 45 and 47, the Enviros could be going on the 97 (not sure though)

If the 97 gets the Enviros, will it still use the Tridents? I think that the Tridents and the Enviros will be too much for the 97. Perhaps they will move to a new home?
Or maybe the 14 gets the Enviros. That way the 97 keeps its branding.

[CL]

Thank you for the clarification, will the electrics be the city variant of the E400 MMC? Will there be a new livery variant of platinum to showcase the electric part?

Yes they will be the city design, I haven't seen the livery design yet

sloppy, but (https://ibb.co/9V0kWG4) concept art, anyone? ;)

(no doubt far from the actual thing, if there is to be a change/variation in livery)

[don]

BC for the 45 and 47, the Enviros could be going on the 97 (not sure though)

As the new buses will ultimately create a cascade to replace old vehicles, you would expect a cascade to Wolverhampton to replace some of the rest of the 43xx Tridents.

[Jack]

Could be for many reasons (baring in mind it isn't fact that they will go on 45/7). These are just general suggestions that you can apply your question to:

-The 45/7 could bring in a better return/profit than the 97.
-Identified as a growth corridor where they see potential of increase usage as a result of putting newer higher spec buses on.

-Agreements such as the council agreeing to to invest in bus priority measures and other infratructure in place as a result.

Clearly the 45/47 has a better profit than the 97 which is way more busier and one the most frequent routes in the West Midlands.

[MasterPlan]

So nothing confirmed then, only rumours at this point?

[busfan2847]

Not often have we seen alpha-numeric fleet identities (the old ex-Corporation fleets had a letter added to the end of their local fleet numbers) but I have a 1987 WMT fleet-list showing No's M1-M10, which were Ford Transit/Carlyle B55-64 AOP. I assume these became 555-564 though.

They were delivered to WMPTE as M1-M10 in 1985 and operated in Shuttlebus livery on a route from Kingstanding to Old Pheasey from the Central Coachways depot in Walsall. They were renumbered 555-564 (matching registration B55-64AOP) by WMT in late 1986.

[Tony]

Not often have we seen alpha-numeric fleet identities (the old ex-Corporation fleets had a letter added to the end of their local fleet numbers) but I have a 1987 WMT fleet-list showing No's M1-M10, which were Ford Transit/Carlyle B55-64 AOP. I assume these became 555-564 though.

Been using them for many years
The coaches are all Cxxx, many carried the number in that format initially, although later replaced the C with their allocation and the neat fleet is all Axxx

[paulb1973]

Been using them for many years
The coaches are all Cxxx, many carried the number in that format initially, although later replaced the C with their allocation and the neat fleet is all Axxx

Yes, so a long history of alpha-numeric fleet 'numbers'. Starting E001 means the 4-digit system can be retained, its going to be a very time indeed before E1000 is ever reached!

[Tony]

Yes, so a long history of alpha-numeric fleet 'numbers'. Starting E001 means the 4-digit system can be retained, its going to be a very time indeed before E1000 is ever reached!

The NEAT fleet already has A1001 upwards

[BK63 YWP]

Wonder if the electrics will have the glazed stair case windows

[Tony]

Wonder if the electrics will have the glazed stair case windows

No

[Stevo]

They were delivered to WMPTE as M1-M10 in 1985 and operated in Shuttlebus livery on a route from Kingstanding to Old Pheasey from the Central Coachways depot in Walsall. They were renumbered 555-564 (matching registration B55-64AOP) by WMT in late 1986.

Strictly speaking the Transits were originally 7055-7064 in the main fleet numbering, with matching registrations. I'm not sure they actually carried these numbers, though.

[busfan2847]

Strictly speaking the Transits were originally 7055-7064 in the main fleet numbering, with matching registrations. I'm not sure they actually carried these numbers, though.

No they entered service as M1-M10. I have seen a photo of the first one delivered as 7055 but it was not used in service with this number.