Dudley Bus Review 2015

[Chris2301]

What changes do people believe will be implemented in the dudley review. Hints of a number restructuring due to arrivas: 213/214/217 and igos 240 becoming the 12/13/14 and 17.

[Stuharris 6360]

Looking at routes run by PE:-

9 should be left largly alone, however is there scope to try running an X9 between Stourbridge & Birmingham City Centre as an experiment. Calling at key stops and running via the expressway, during peak periods this service could compete with rail services between Stourbridge & Birmingham and provide a quicker journey time to the City for other people. Initially this service could be operated with Branded B7Rle's.

120, the frequency should be reduced to every 10 minutes, but all services should run between Birmingham & Dudley with deckers used.

140/141/241 haven't long been altered so i would leave those alone at the moment.

243 i would extend this service to Gornal Wood via 297 route, therefore 297 withdrawn.

244 i would extend this route to Kingswinford via 205 route, therefore 205 withdrawn.

I would like to see the X96 and 276 change routes around Norton/Wollaston so that the X96 goes to Wollaston Junction via Norton & the 276 goes on the loop of Wollaston Farm, then you would be able to put Deckers back on the 276. Route numbers could be changed to 76 & 96.

[Sh4318]

Looking at routes run by PE:-

9 should be left largly alone, however is there scope to try running an X9 between Stourbridge & Birmingham City Centre as an experiment. Calling at key stops and running via the expressway, during peak periods this service could compete with rail services between Stourbridge & Birmingham and provide a quicker journey time to the City for other people. Initially this service could be operated with Branded B7Rle's.

120, the frequency should be reduced to every 10 minutes, but all services should run between Birmingham & Dudley with deckers used.

140/141/241 haven't long been altered so i would leave those alone at the moment.

243 i would extend this service to Gornal Wood via 297 route, therefore 297 withdrawn.

244 i would extend this route to Kingswinford via 205 route, therefore 205 withdrawn.

I would like to see the X96 and 276 change routes around Norton/Wollaston so that the X96 goes to Wollaston Junction via Norton & the 276 goes on the loop of Wollaston Farm, then you would be able to put Deckers back on the 276. Route numbers could be changed to 76 & 96.

The 120 is every 10 minutes, if anything, the frequency should be increased

[Stuharris 6360]

Looking at routes run by PE:-

9 should be left largly alone, however is there scope to try running an X9 between Stourbridge & Birmingham City Centre as an experiment. Calling at key stops and running via the expressway, during peak periods this service could compete with rail services between Stourbridge & Birmingham and provide a quicker journey time to the City for other people. Initially this service could be operated with Branded B7Rle's.

120, the frequency should be reduced to every 10 minutes, but all services should run between Birmingham & Dudley with deckers used.

140/141/241 haven't long been altered so i would leave those alone at the moment.

243 i would extend this service to Gornal Wood via 297 route, therefore 297 withdrawn.

244 i would extend this route to Kingswinford via 205 route, therefore 205 withdrawn.

I would like to see the X96 and 276 change routes around Norton/Wollaston so that the X96 goes to Wollaston Junction via Norton & the 276 goes on the loop of Wollaston Farm, then you would be able to put Deckers back on the 276. Route numbers could be changed to 76 & 96.

The 120 is every 10 minutes, if anything, the frequency should be increased

Sorry, i always get it in my head that the service is every 7/8 minutes.

The service needs increasing even with deckers used?

[the trainbasher]

I'd spin the Norton and Wollaston Farmbits off to new routes 93, 94 and 95, when's nest to new route 26 and the x96 to route 6 with 276 becoming route 7

222 to become the 2, 243 to become 3 with 140 to become 40, 241 to become 40M and 141 to become 41

[wilmotm (Matt Wilmot)]

I would just leave the lot alone! Especially the 222, can't make a service number easier than that to remember

[the trainbasher]

I like what the Walsall 350 used to be called...999

[andrew1991]

X96 cut back to Dudley and Stourbridge renumbered 96.
27 changed to cover the old 527 route.
9 cut to halesowen
246 renumbered 6 and extended to halesowen along 9 route.
New 6A route missing Russell's Hall hospital out only running to Stourbridge
276 extended to wollaston farm renumbered 76
243 renumbered 3 serving Dudley - Timbertree estate.

[karl724223]

Put most routes back to hartshill dudley days

[Chris2301]

X96 cut back to Dudley and Stourbridge renumbered 96.
27 changed to cover the old 527 route.
9 cut to halesowen
246 renumbered 6 and extended to halesowen along 9 route.
New 6A route missing Russell's Hall hospital out only running to Stourbridge
276 extended to wollaston farm renumbered 76
243 renumbered 3 serving Dudley - Timbertree estate.

Extending the 246 to halesowen might make it unreliable as the stourbridge road  and brierley hill can get rather congested.

My route renumbering would be
(Agreeing with some ideas already stated)
2 - 222
3 - 243
5 - 246
6 - X96 (stourbridge to dudley)
7 - 276 (stourbridge to dudley)
8C/8A stourbridge, wollaston, norton
9/X9 - 9 (platinum branded)
10 - 244
20 - 120
21/40/41 - 241/140/141
55/56/57 - 255/256/257 (new numbers fit in the wolvo renumbering)
289 - 90

[D10]

if we are to have route renumbering, then I would like to see the D prefix restored, and perhaps the S prefix for any purely Stourbridge routes. Or perhaps even an M prefix being introduced to Merry Hill routes, as that is arguably more of an important focus for routes nowadays than the other towns in Dudley borough.

This seems to have been successful in the Solihull area after the review there in 2009 allocated S numbers there. It has the benefit of low numbers but without the possibility of confusion with other routes, and gives more of an impression to residents that they are their local routes.

[karl724223]

Look at the mess the wolves west brom remembering caused
LEAVE NUMBERS AS THEY ARE

[Stuharris 6360]

Look at the mess the wolves west brom remembering caused
LEAVE NUMBERS AS THEY ARE

Karl, i think we are all in agreement with you, but the renumbering of the 213/4/7 seems to suggest that if a Dudley bus review takes place, then so will the renumberings.

In the early 1970s, the WMPTE renumbered a lot of services "to eliminate the confusing duplication of route numbers throughout it's area" (quote from WMPTE ttimetable book dated August 1976)

What do we have now, a confusing duplication of route numbers throughout the Centro area. Renumbering the Dudley services will only add to it!

[karl724223]

I know it's the drivers that have to sort the mess out because it looks good on somebody's laptop ipad

[Chris2301]

Look at the mess the wolves west brom remembering caused
LEAVE NUMBERS AS THEY ARE

Karl, i think we are all in agreement with you, but the renumbering of the 213/4/7 seems to suggest that if a Dudley bus review takes place, then so will the renumberings.

In the early 1970s, the WMPTE renumbered a lot of services "to eliminate the confusing duplication of route numbers throughout it's area" (quote from WMPTE ttimetable book dated August 1976)

What do we have now, a confusing duplication of route numbers throughout the Centro area. Renumbering the Dudley services will only add to it!

Tbh i argee the renumbering is getting stupid. Centro wanted local and easy to understand networks. I thought the old numbers 1-199 birmingham network 200-299 dudley network etc etc were easy to understand.

With the renumbering of 213/214/217 and 240 coming up centro/NWM haven't done much announcements with leaflets and poster around merry hill and those route. So i see people aren't guna know changes until the 25th January