If you had the chance to modify or add any service, what would you do?

[Tony]

You off your rocker mate? They don't know what bus fares are in Camp Hill and Ladywood.

What's with all this anger?

[Jack]

He means Camp Hill Island in the Digbeth area, just outside Birmingham City Centre not Camp Hill in Smethwick. @Ashley 60171

Cape Hill is in Smethwick. @2206

[2206]

Cape Hill is in Smethwick. @2206

Yes got the name mixed up there sorry, I don't get his post then, to be honest.

[Jack]

Cape Hill Island is in Digbeth, just outside Birmingham City Centre, the name of the road is also Camp Hill (The place Stu was referring to and the X20 visits).

For goodness sake why are you mocking me?
Cape Hill is SMETHWICK!
Camp Hill is DIGBETH!

Like I said in my previous post Cape Hill is Smethwick. Your original post said Camp Hill was in Smethwick. End of convo

Yes I know the X20 serves Camp Hill!

[2206]

For goodness sake why are you mocking me?
Cape Hill is SMETHWICK!
Camp Hill is DIGBETH!

Like I said in my previous post Cape Hill is Smethwick. Your original post said Camp Hill was in Smethwick. End of convo

I wasn't mocking you, I was editing it after clicking post to early by mistake before I properly read your posr my new post is above, posted not long after yours.

[Jack]

I wasn't mocking you, I was editing it after clicking post to early, my new post is above, posted seconds after yours.

Yes I posted before you edited your post, if you see the times of my post and the edited post...

[MW]

@Jack B, don't worry, you're not the only one who thinks this guy is lost. I think he's the one who found the weed that the child left on the bus lmfao

[Jack]

@Jack B, don't worry, you're not the only one who thinks this guy is lost. I think he's the one who found the weed that the child left on the bus lmfao

LOL!
He probably rolled it up and took it of the bus!

[Jack]

Withdraw the whole of the PB 38. The route is a waste of time, just the 96 route doing a loop of The Vale. There's no more than 5 people on them as well. It never seems to run on time. People can easily do a 5 minute walk from Spitfire Island to the High Street, so not much difference, when getting off the 96 and get a 67/71 to the High Street.

[Kevin]

Withdraw the whole of the PB 38. The route is a waste of time, just the 96 route doing a loop of The Vale. There's no more than 5 people on them as well. It never seems to run on time. People can easily do a 5 minute walk from Spitfire Island to the High Street, so not much difference, when getting off the 96 and get a 67/71 to the High Street.

5 minute walk from Spitfire to High Street????
Mate, I walk fast, like real fast, I'd never manage that!!

I had been thinking about the routes around there myself, best I can suggest really is combining the 71 and 96 from Chelmsley Wood into a single more frequent route up to Spitfire Island and into the Vale, then split say into a 71 to Sutton and 71A to Erdington but both of them more direct
The 38 can then stay as a half hourly service along Holly Lane and through the Vale to Minworth and up to Sutton - almost exactly like the 68a/c used to be  :D :D  :D

[Jack]

5 minute walk from Spitfire to High Street????
Mate, I walk fast, like real fast, I'd never manage that!!

I had been thinking about the routes around there myself, best I can suggest really is combining the 71 and 96 from Chelmsley Wood into a single more frequent route up to Spitfire Island and into the Vale, then split say into a 71 to Sutton and 71A to Erdington but both of them more direct
The 38 can then stay as a half hourly service along Holly Lane and through the Vale to Minworth and up to Sutton - almost exactly like the 68a/c used to be  :D :D  :D

The 38 in all fairness is one big waste of time. NX should of it withdrew ages ago. The old 638 was the same. If it was extended to somewhere where it could be reliable and carry more then it would probably work. It's pretty much the 96 just doing a loop of The Vale.

Apologies i was incorrect at the timings of walking to the High Street, it takes about 10-15 minutes, but people can simply wait for the 71 or 67 if they don't want to walk.

[2206]

The 38 in all fairness is one big waste of time. NX should of it withdrew ages ago. The old 638 was the same. If it was extended to somewhere where it could be reliable and carry more then it would probably work. It's pretty much the 96 just doing a loop of The Vale.

Apologies i was incorrect at the timings of walking to the High Street, it takes about 10-15 minutes, but people can simply wait for the 71 or 67 if they don't want to walk.

I agree it does seem a waste of time. Lots if people can still easily walk it and if they're unable to its easy enough to change onto the 67 and 71 at Spitfire Island. I've never seen more than a few people on it.

[Jack]

I agree it does seem a waste of time. Lots if people can still easily walk it and if they're unable to its easy enough to change onto the 67 and 71 at Spitfire Island. I've never seen more than a few people on it.

I know a PB driver who drives the 38 (Erdington rota) and says it's pointless. He even said it carries fresh air during the day. I don't think the 38 has ever been a busy route in its life time, going back to the 638. I did enjoy B10's on the 638 though, they were empty so it meant for thrash, sadly those days are long gone.

[Lukeee]

I know a PB driver who drives the 38 (Erdington rota) and says it's pointless. He even said it carries fresh air during the day. I don't think the 38 has ever been a busy route in its life time, going back to the 638. I did enjoy B10's on the 638 though, they were empty so it meant for thrash, sadly those days are long gone.

Tbh the 38 seems like the sort of route you would expect a smaller operator to run with a solo or dart

[Jack]

Tbh the 38 seems like the sort of route you would expect a smaller operator to run with a solo or dart

You could just a Primo on it! If it didn't interwork with the FD I put the extra E200 on it.