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If you had the chance to modify or add any service, what would you do?

Started by Alex, November 15, 2014, 06:30:12 PM

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Tony

Quote from: 2206 on April 25, 2017, 07:23:16 PM
Just read on the NX facebook page, in a reply to someone asking if NX are operating a service to Drayton Manor in the May half term, NX have said they will be running a service and at present are finalizing the details.


Only four tickets left for Saturday's trip now. Looks like I will have a completely full bus, even got one wheelchair booked!

B.C Driver

It's ironic that the X64 displays 'Limited Stop' and the X61 does not.

X61 needs frequency improving during peak times, every 15 mins is not good enough in rush hour.

The current route in city adds to delays, too many traffic lights to negotiate.

Kevin

Quote from: B.C Driver on April 26, 2017, 01:03:58 PM
It's ironic that the X64 displays 'Limited Stop' and the X61 does not

Yeah that is just ridiculous. Does the X64 still say limited stop on the destination board?
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Mike K

Quote from: Kevin on April 26, 2017, 06:12:07 PM
Yeah that is just ridiculous. Does the X64 still say limited stop on the destination board?

As of today, yes - destination displays have still not been amended.

Sandy Lane

COVENTRY - following TC cutting short the 16 to the hospital from town vis Stoke Aldermoor and the Igo 26 sticking plaster solution.

Why not re-instate 16 back on full route from hospital but after Stoke A. send it down Humber Rd, London Rd, Daventry Rd, Quinton Rd, train station and then to town. Will fill a missing gap in travel needs.

MasterPlan

Quote from: Mike K on April 26, 2017, 09:21:04 PM
As of today, yes - destination displays have still not been amended.

It's still not been amended. Is this because it's likely to change again after the SW review?
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

Kevin

With the East Brum changes I'd suggest at least some sort of local route for the Bromford area, if just more buses on Diamond's 25

Also, with the changes to the buses around Sandwell Hospital today, the 45 and 40 effectively swapped routes from West Brom to All Saints. How about the 40 takes over the 45 as far as Stone Cross? Potential for better links Wednesbury and Friar Park to Tame Bridge station
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Squiz1971

Quote from: Kevin on June 04, 2017, 01:12:31 PM
With the East Brum changes I'd suggest at least some sort of local route for the Bromford area, if just more buses on Diamond's 25

Or reinstate the 26 again but maybe from Newport/Chester Road to town instead terminating in Hall Road, so at least Drews Lane can have a bus service again

Tony

Quote from: Squiz1971 on June 04, 2017, 02:27:30 PM
Or reinstate the 26 again but maybe from Newport/Chester Road to town instead terminating in Hall Road, so at least Drews Lane can have a bus service again

A new service for one bus stop?

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Quote from: Squiz1971 on June 04, 2017, 02:27:30 PM
Or reinstate the 26 again but maybe from Newport/Chester Road to town instead terminating in Hall Road, so at least Drews Lane can have a bus service again
From what I saw few on Drews Lane used the 72 anyway.
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94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Alex

Just a thought to try to improve some of the services with the South Birmingham review fairly soon.

1) Five Ways - Edgbaston Cricket Ground - Moseley - Acocks Green - Gospel Oak
Changes: Will terminate at Acocks Green, en route for Gospel Oak. See 31 for
         services between Acocks Green & Gospel Oak.

2) Birmingham - Sparkhill - Billesley - Warstock - Maypole
3) Birmingham - Sparkhill - Billesley - Yardley Wood
Changes: 2 & 3 rerouted between City & Yardley Wood Road, serving Bordesley Middleway,
         A4540 Highgate Road & Stoney Lane.
         Showell Green Lane will no longer be served by service 2.

5) Birmingham - Sparkhill - Sarehole Mill - Shirley - Widney Manor - Solihull
Changes: Will no longer continue beyond Shirley, towards Solihull. See new service X7 for
         these areas.

X7) Birmingham - non stop to Shirley - Widney Manor - Solihull Town Centre - Solihull Station
Changes: New service, will operate every 20 minutes Monday to Saturday daytime,
         every 30 minutes Evenings & Sundays. Flexible routing to avoid traffic
         between Shirley, Saracens Head & Birmingham city centre.

Not quite done yet, but that's a rough overview of what I've got so far.
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2206

Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2017, 12:10:22 PM
Just a thought to try to improve some of the services with the South Birmingham review fairly soon.

1) Five Ways - Edgbaston Cricket Ground - Moseley - Acocks Green - Gospel Oak
Changes: Will terminate at Acocks Green, en route for Gospel Oak. See 31 for
         services between Acocks Green & Gospel Oak.

2) Birmingham - Sparkhill - Billesley - Warstock - Maypole
3) Birmingham - Sparkhill - Billesley - Yardley Wood
Changes: 2 & 3 rerouted between City & Yardley Wood Road, serving Bordesley Middleway,
         A4540 Highgate Road & Stoney Lane.
         Showell Green Lane will no longer be served by service 2.

5) Birmingham - Sparkhill - Sarehole Mill - Shirley - Widney Manor - Solihull
Changes: Will no longer continue beyond Shirley, towards Solihull. See new service X7 for
         these areas.

X7) Birmingham - non stop to Shirley - Widney Manor - Solihull Town Centre - Solihull Station
Changes: New service, will operate every 20 minutes Monday to Saturday daytime,
         every 30 minutes Evenings & Sundays. Flexible routing to avoid traffic
         between Shirley, Saracens Head & Birmingham city centre.

Not quite done yet, but that's a rough overview of what I've got so far.
Are there really enough passengers south of Shirley for a express service only serving them straight to the City Centre, wanting to go to the City Centre for a service every 20 minutes Monday to Saturday daytimes and every 30 minutes evenings and Sundays?
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Jack

Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2017, 12:10:22 PM
Just a thought to try to improve some of the services with the South Birmingham review fairly soon.

1) Five Ways - Edgbaston Cricket Ground - Moseley - Acocks Green - Gospel Oak
Changes: Will terminate at Acocks Green, en route for Gospel Oak. See 31 for
         services between Acocks Green & Gospel Oak.

2) Birmingham - Sparkhill - Billesley - Warstock - Maypole
3) Birmingham - Sparkhill - Billesley - Yardley Wood
Changes: 2 & 3 rerouted between City & Yardley Wood Road, serving Bordesley Middleway,
         A4540 Highgate Road & Stoney Lane.
         Showell Green Lane will no longer be served by service 2.

5) Birmingham - Sparkhill - Sarehole Mill - Shirley - Widney Manor - Solihull
Changes: Will no longer continue beyond Shirley, towards Solihull. See new service X7 for
         these areas.

X7) Birmingham - non stop to Shirley - Widney Manor - Solihull Town Centre - Solihull Station
Changes: New service, will operate every 20 minutes Monday to Saturday daytime,
         every 30 minutes Evenings & Sundays. Flexible routing to avoid traffic
         between Shirley, Saracens Head & Birmingham city centre.

Not quite done yet, but that's a rough overview of what I've got so far.
The changes to your 1 sound good. Waste of time extending it to Gospel Oak. They've got the 31!

The 2/3 changes don't sound right why use Bordesley Middlesway? Can Deckers get under the bridge on Highgate Road? I presume the 2 won't use Court Road either?

Why does the 5 need to be cut for? Yes, it doesn't carry that much between Solihull and Springfield, but why have an Express Service which will probably be quiet just like the 5.

Will Monkspath and Cranmore Boulevard still have a bus service? As your 5 is only running to Shirley. X7 will probably only 3 stops around there. There's the Peak only 6A, unless you make that run during the day Mon-Sat.TBH I think the 5 is fine.

Stu

Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2017, 12:10:22 PM
Just a thought to try to improve some of the services with the South Birmingham review fairly soon.

1) Five Ways - Edgbaston Cricket Ground - Moseley - Acocks Green - Gospel Oak
Changes: Will terminate at Acocks Green, en route for Gospel Oak. See 31 for
         services between Acocks Green & Gospel Oak.

The 1 and 31 follow different routes between Acocks Green village and Gospel Lane/Severne Road. Who's going to miss out, Olton Boulevard East or Shirley Road/Pool Farm Road?

Quote2) Birmingham - Sparkhill - Billesley - Warstock - Maypole
3) Birmingham - Sparkhill - Billesley - Yardley Wood
Changes: 2 & 3 rerouted between City & Yardley Wood Road, serving Bordesley Middleway,
         A4540 Highgate Road & Stoney Lane.
         Showell Green Lane will no longer be served by service 2.
Can't quite see the reasoning behind this? You are in effect reducing the overall capacity through Sparkbrook along Stratford Road. If traffic is the issue, then Highgate Road is just as bad at times.

Quote5) Birmingham - Sparkhill - Sarehole Mill - Shirley - Widney Manor - Solihull
Changes: Will no longer continue beyond Shirley, towards Solihull. See new service X7 for
         these areas.

X7) Birmingham - non stop to Shirley - Widney Manor - Solihull Town Centre - Solihull Station
Changes: New service, will operate every 20 minutes Monday to Saturday daytime,
         every 30 minutes Evenings & Sundays. Flexible routing to avoid traffic
         between Shirley, Saracens Head & Birmingham city centre.

Roads like the A34 Stratford Road are not (in my opinion) really suited to express or limited stop routes, because of the nature of the road itself. Making it flexi-route probably won't help either, as from Shirley there aren't really any other alternative pathways that would avoid any traffic problems. Look at the X20, it is a limited stop service that still gets delayed because of traffic, and carries relatively few passengers due to its limited stop nature.
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Quote from: Stu on June 22, 2017, 07:06:45 PM
Look at the X20, it is a limited stop service that still gets delayed because of traffic, and carries relatively few passengers due to its limited stop nature.
The main reason it carries few passengers between Birmingham and Shirley is because most people have NX passes and tickets @Stu, which have the benefit of being cheaper than N bus passes (slightly) and passengers can use the majority of services across the West Midlands .
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

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