If you had the chance to modify or add any service, what would you do?

[PM]

Bring back the old 44 service... Handy local links lost when that went...

Put 27 back onto Pamela Road, South Road line of route

[lynx1103]

What if there was an X33 - like there is with the X51. Have the X33 not serve some stops like Perry Barr, like the X51 does. And also, like the X51, have some journeys extended. Maybe to Queslett ASDA, or Great Barr?

Been tried before around 2008 as service 994 off peak linking

Streetly hardwick Arms-Kingstanding-Warren Farm-UCE-Birmingham

[JB93]

We need a proper express service to Chelmsley Wood to make a comeback! The 97 is supposed to be the quickest route from the City Centre to Chelmsley Wood and it takes me close to - if not more than - an hour sometimes to travel into the city. If there was a much quicker alternative straight from the City to Chelmsley then people could connect onto other services at Chelmsley Wood to other parts of East Brum, but it would still be much quicker than having to sit on a 97.

It could go down the Nechells Parkway with the Washwood Heath services, turn onto the Heartlands Parkway before Saltley Viaduct, come off that onto Bromford Lane and then the Fort Parkway, stop at the Fort (also providing a direct NXWM link from Birmingham to The Fort), then right onto the A452, then onto the Collector Road direct into Chelmsley.

There could even be another service that has more stops in between to run alongside it - it could use the Heartlands Parkway and then turn right onto Bromford Lane, following the 11 route to the Fox & Goose, with a stop by the old Bromford pub to have an express connection to Bromford. Then another stop at the Fox & Goose where it would turn left and follow the 70/94 route to the Clock Garage roundabout, turn left down Newport Road and join the Collector Road into Chelmsley. Or, because of traffic issues, it could stay on the Bradford Road with the 94 and then just carry on straight down the Chester Road into Chelmsley, not stopping though except maybe a stop for the Timberley shops and for Kingshurst.

[Westy]

Has there ever been a TWM or NX route between Brum City Centre & The Fort?

Never known one.

The only way I've got to The Fort in the past is the 966 from Erdington.

(Wasn't the 11 diverted there at one point?)

[JB93]

Has there ever been a TWM or NX route between Brum City Centre & The Fort?

Never known one.

The only way I've got to The Fort in the past is the 966 from Erdington.

(Wasn't the 11 diverted there at one point?)

Not too sure if the old TWM express routes to Chelmsley made a stop at the Fort. If not, then no I don't think there has been from what I can remember anyway. And yeah the 11 used to go down there and stop at the shelters by the roundabout before turning round back up to Bromford Lane. the 68A/C used to go in there too.

[Tony]

Has there ever been a TWM or NX route between Brum City Centre & The Fort?

Never known one.

The only way I've got to The Fort in the past is the 966 from Erdington.

(Wasn't the 11 diverted there at one point?)

Not too sure if the old TWM express routes to Chelmsley made a stop at the Fort. If not, then no I don't think there has been from what I can remember anyway. And yeah the 11 used to go down there and stop at the shelters by the roundabout before turning round back up to Bromford Lane. the 68A/C used to go in there too.

Yes, 993/994 served the Fort for a time

[Tony]

We need a proper express service to Chelmsley Wood to make a comeback! The 97 is supposed to be the quickest route from the City Centre to Chelmsley Wood and it takes me close to - if not more than - an hour sometimes to travel into the city. If there was a much quicker alternative straight from the City to Chelmsley then people could connect onto other services at Chelmsley Wood to other parts of East Brum, but it would still be much quicker than having to sit on a 97.

It could go down the Nechells Parkway with the Washwood Heath services, turn onto the Heartlands Parkway before Saltley Viaduct, come off that onto Bromford Lane and then the Fort Parkway, stop at the Fort (also providing a direct NXWM link from Birmingham to The Fort), then right onto the A452, then onto the Collector Road direct into Chelmsley.

There could even be another service that has more stops in between to run alongside it - it could use the Heartlands Parkway and then turn right onto Bromford Lane, following the 11 route to the Fox & Goose, with a stop by the old Bromford pub to have an express connection to Bromford. Then another stop at the Fox & Goose where it would turn left and follow the 70/94 route to the Clock Garage roundabout, turn left down Newport Road and join the Collector Road into Chelmsley. Or, because of traffic issues, it could stay on the Bradford Road with the 94 and then just carry on straight down the Chester Road into Chelmsley, not stopping though except maybe a stop for the Timberley shops and for Kingshurst.

The 14 is usually quicker between Chelmsley Wood town centre and Birmingham City Centre than the 97

[monkeyjoe]

We need a proper express service to Chelmsley Wood to make a comeback! The 97 is supposed to be the quickest route from the City Centre to Chelmsley Wood and it takes me close to - if not more than - an hour sometimes to travel into the city. If there was a much quicker alternative straight from the City to Chelmsley then people could connect onto other services at Chelmsley Wood to other parts of East Brum, but it would still be much quicker than having to sit on a 97.

It could go down the Nechells Parkway with the Washwood Heath services, turn onto the Heartlands Parkway before Saltley Viaduct, come off that onto Bromford Lane and then the Fort Parkway, stop at the Fort (also providing a direct NXWM link from Birmingham to The Fort), then right onto the A452, then onto the Collector Road direct into Chelmsley.

There could even be another service that has more stops in between to run alongside it - it could use the Heartlands Parkway and then turn right onto Bromford Lane, following the 11 route to the Fox & Goose, with a stop by the old Bromford pub to have an express connection to Bromford. Then another stop at the Fox & Goose where it would turn left and follow the 70/94 route to the Clock Garage roundabout, turn left down Newport Road and join the Collector Road into Chelmsley. Or, because of traffic issues, it could stay on the Bradford Road with the 94 and then just carry on straight down the Chester Road into Chelmsley, not stopping though except maybe a stop for the Timberley shops and for Kingshurst.

The 14 is usually quicker between Chelmsley Wood town centre and Birmingham City Centre than the 97

With the current hold ups at the heartlands/ bromford lane at rush hour and pending jct 5 closure that route would not work for sometime. I don't ever remember the 993/994 serving the fort, must have been between 2000-2005 must have not lasted a long time

[The Fox 4846]

I think the 934/5/5A/6 should transfer to Perry Barr

[Westy]

I think the 934/5/5A/6 should transfer to Perry Barr

If PB lose enough routes, then that should happen, but they havent got the capacity.

(Im assuming if PB did have the capacity, we wouldnt have the current version of the routes? Part of the 934 replaced a Centro subsidy ISTR!)

[The Fox 4846]

I'd then move the 94 to BC

[Kevin]

I'd then move the 94 to BC

So what would you transfer out of Central to have space for the 94?

[Dutsey]

Two new services I would think of adding would be:

114 - Sutton Coldfield to Castle Vale via Good Hope, Walmley, Pype Hays and Bagots Arm

76 - Sutton Coldfield to West Bromwich via Perry Common, Perry Barr BCU, Perry Barr to Handsworth - giving a direct link to BCU from West Brom.

[The Fox 4846]

I'd transfer the 70 to AG

So which route would you move out of Acocks Green to make space, and where would you have the relief point? Because of the length of the 70 relief points at either end are extremely awkward, hence why BC drivers change at the Mackadown.

[the trainbasher]

I'd tack the Wrens Nest loop onto the 205 so the X96 would run Dudley - Wollaston Farm. That would give the X96 adequate recovery time at Dudley to allow for (the quite common) delays