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Article in metro about double decker bus having roof ripped off

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Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 04, 2015, 03:34:40 PM
Article in metro about double decker bus having roof ripped off

Presumamably its about the Trident that lost its roof in London yesterday.
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Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 04, 2015, 05:05:52 PM
Presumamably its about the Trident that lost its roof in London yesterday.

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CL

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/bus-driver-failed-stop-passenger-9864656#ICID=FB-Birm-main

Blimey, I can only assume this happened on a Sutton Lines service? I hope she's fine now, but I can only imagine the driver was 'going by the rulebook' - that he couldn't stop and let passengers off anywhere other than a bus stop/station? Or something along those lines?

Though I had a driver once, who pull over near the side of a road, quite close to a 'T' junction to let a faint woman off due to heat exhaustion, I believe? Eventually, the rest of the passengers were instructed to get off and wait for the next bus.
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Quote from: clayderman on August 16, 2015, 07:53:39 PM
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/bus-driver-failed-stop-passenger-9864656#ICID=FB-Birm-main

Blimey, I can only assume this happened on a Sutton Lines service? I hope she's fine now, but I can only imagine the driver was 'going by the rulebook' - that he couldn't stop and let passengers off anywhere other than a bus stop/station? Or something along those lines?

Though I had a driver once, who pull over near the side of a road, quite close to a 'T' junction to let a faint woman off due to heat exhaustion, I believe? Eventually, the rest of the passengers were instructed to get off and wait for the next bus.

Going by the rule book could have cost her a life! I would never work for nx due to their strict policy

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I remember once I was on a 11A journey and a drunk person fainted and the driver remained stationary and ultimately escorted him off
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Quote from: clayderman on August 16, 2015, 07:53:39 PM
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/bus-driver-failed-stop-passenger-9864656#ICID=FB-Birm-main

Blimey, I can only assume this happened on a Sutton Lines service? I hope she's fine now, but I can only imagine the driver was 'going by the rulebook' - that he couldn't stop and let passengers off anywhere other than a bus stop/station? Or something along those lines?

Though I had a driver once, who pull over near the side of a road, quite close to a 'T' junction to let a faint woman off due to heat exhaustion, I believe? Eventually, the rest of the passengers were instructed to get off and wait for the next bus.

I'd like to think from the way the company has responded and some things written in the article that this is a case of 'there are two sides to every story'.

The article itself states that the lady originally asked 'Excuse me, will you stop the bus and let me off?', not 'Excuse me, I suffer from a chest complaint and am having severe chest pains, can you please pull over and call an ambulance'. The driver has quite correctly followed the rules and refused this, he is not a mind reader. Had she said the latter I'm pretty sure the situation would have been dealt with differently.

The response from the law firm also raises an eyebrow, as does the fact she originally spoke to the police rather than the ambulance service, and the fact her husband reached her before an emergency ambulance responding to a suspected heart attack.

Wouldn't surprise me if the bus was originally on the Expressway when she approached the driver!

Of course I wasn't actually on the bus and these are just my own views - its possible the driver was fully in the wrong.

AndrewLee

Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 16, 2015, 08:42:23 PM
Going by the rule book could have cost her a life! I would never work for nx due to their strict policy

NX may be strict but they still have common sense. That is to say I trust them not to take disciplinary action against a driver given the circumstances. i don't believe for one second the driver could not safely park the bus. In an emergency you stop - no excuses! Pull to the side, hazards on. People will soon get the message!

CL

Quote from: notepanel on August 16, 2015, 08:54:44 PM
I'd like to think from the way the company has responded and some things written in the article that this is a case of 'there are two sides to every story'.

The article itself states that the lady originally asked 'Excuse me, will you stop the bus and let me off?', not 'Excuse me, I suffer from a chest complaint and am having severe chest pains, can you please pull over and call an ambulance'. The driver has quite correctly followed the rules and refused this, he is not a mind reader. Had she said the latter I'm pretty sure the situation would have been dealt with differently.

The response from the law firm also raises an eyebrow, as does the fact she originally spoke to the police rather than the ambulance service, and the fact her husband reached her before an emergency ambulance responding to a suspected heart attack.

Wouldn't surprise me if the bus was originally on the Expressway when she approached the driver!

Of course I wasn't actually on the bus and these are just my own views - its possible the driver was fully in the wrong.
Yeah, I think when I posted, I was sort of aiming at that 'two sides to the story' - I just didn't know how to put it.  :P

Also, I just wanted to reiterate, it was unconfirmed that the bus was on the Sutton Lines, I just guessed, as the article stated 'crowded vehicle' - and it does mention Erdington and Sutton Coldfield's Good Hope Hospital, so I put two and two together - though, I suppose your 'theory' that the bus was on the Expressway is a valid 'backup' to my original statement. :)
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Quote from: clayderman on August 16, 2015, 09:01:43 PM
Yeah, I think when I posted, I was sort of aiming at that 'two sides to the story' - I just didn't know how to put it.  :P

Also, I just wanted to reiterate, it was unconfirmed that the bus was on the Sutton Lines, I just guessed, as the article stated 'crowded vehicle' - and it does mention Erdington and Sutton Coldfield's Good Hope Hospital, so I put two and two together - though, I suppose your 'theory' that the bus was on the Expressway is a valid 'backup' to my original statement. :)
5 minutes on diversion in the City Centre it says in the article, probably this one http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/temporary-diversions/closure-of-carrs-lane
Stops all along Moor Street and Carrs Lane the driver could of pulled up at?
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Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 16, 2015, 08:42:23 PM
Going by the rule book could have cost her a life! I would never work for nx due to their strict policy

And dropping her off at the side of the road couldn't cost her life ?

Scenario 1: a passenger feels sick, driver stops and opens door. Passenger steps off bus but faints getting off smashing their head on the pavement. Passenger never wakes up again.


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Quote from: pndriver on August 16, 2015, 09:36:35 PM
And dropping her off at the side of the road couldn't cost her life ?

Scenario 1: a passenger feels sick, driver stops and opens door. Passenger steps off bus but faints getting off smashing their head on the pavement. Passenger never wakes up again.
NXWM say the bus floor was on diversion in the City only one I can see is this http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/temporary-diversions/closure-of-carrs-lane. Just as likley if she is stood up asking the driver to let her of.
Well she could faint and smash her head on the floor of the bus. @pndriver
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Quote from: pndriver on August 16, 2015, 09:36:35 PM
And dropping her off at the side of the road couldn't cost her life ?

Scenario 1: a passenger feels sick, driver stops and opens door. Passenger steps off bus but faints getting off smashing their head on the pavement. Passenger never wakes up again.

I rembembee years years ago seeing a bus stop passengers off in traffic and a cyclists came up the near side as they were getting off! Can imagine the outcome!

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