closeing garages

[STEVEN 33]

does any one now if bordsley green closeing down or Birmingham central

[Stu]

No, why would they close either one down, and where would the buses/routes go?

[winston]

Bordesley could be closed as an operational garage being the smallest, but there's nowhere with spare capacity for its fleet & routes to be moved to.

Bordesley is NXWM HQ and they've just spent £1 million + on the AVL system so that wont be going anywhere anytime soon.

[Westy]

They've shut enough depots over the past 20 to 30 years & now some depots are struggling for space.

They really need another depot in East Birmingham to take the pressure off Perry Barr & Central/Bordesley.

[Solo1]

What was the reason for closing Hockley   Lea Hall Quintion Washwood Heath
I know there had space at other depots but now they r struggling for space
& how much extra  fuel running dead to the outer termius
compaired to if the garage was still open like woodgate (Quinton)or chelmsley wood (Lea Hall). Now Birmingham Central

[James4368]

What was the reason for closing Hockley   Lea Hall Quintion Washwood Heath
I know there had space at other depots but now they r struggling for space
& how much extra  fuel running dead to the outer termius
compaired to if the garage was still open like woodgate (Quinton)or chelmsley wood (Lea Hall). Now Birmingham Central

lea hall was closed because some recycling company brought the garage and there is some B10s,B6s and O45Ns still at the back

[Tony]

What was the reason for closing Hockley   Lea Hall Quintion Washwood Heath
I know there had space at other depots but now they r struggling for space
& how much extra  fuel running dead to the outer termius
compaired to if the garage was still open like woodgate (Quinton)or chelmsley wood (Lea Hall). Now Birmingham Central

lea hall was closed because some recycling company brought the garage and there is some B10s,B6s and O45Ns still at the back

That is not correct. They were all closed to save money. The recycling company didn't come along until some time later

[James4368]

What was the reason for closing Hockley   Lea Hall Quintion Washwood Heath
I know there had space at other depots but now they r struggling for space
& how much extra  fuel running dead to the outer termius
compaired to if the garage was still open like woodgate (Quinton)or chelmsley wood (Lea Hall). Now Birmingham Central

lea hall was closed because some recycling company brought the garage and there is some B10s,B6s and O45Ns still at the back

That is not correct. They were all closed to save money. The recycling company didn't come along until some time later

I went to lea hall a few weeks ago looked inside at front completely  empty and back still has some remaining withdrawn buses

[Solo1]

If they are now struggling for space at the depots they could build
another one not sure where they would build one to take the presure
of the other depots & take some more new  services as passenger numbers are up

[James4368]

If they are now struggling for space at the depots they could build
another one not sure where they would build one to take the presure
of the other depots & take some more new  services as passenger numbers are up

wont be no space for miller street as they have withdrawn buses and their trainers there

[winston]

What was the reason for closing Hockley   Lea Hall Quintion Washwood Heath
I know there had space at other depots but now they r struggling for space
& how much extra  fuel running dead to the outer termius
compaired to if the garage was still open like woodgate (Quinton)or chelmsley wood (Lea Hall). Now Birmingham Central

Quinton was plagued by noise complaints from local residents and I believe had restrictions imposed on it even though the garage was there before some of the houses. I'm sure the residents are so much better off with the constant flow of traffic 7 days a week due to the Tesco.

The decision to close Lea Hall was made during Dean Finch's review of NX Group businesses,  the closure was due toexcess capacity in Birmingham & to cut costs.

It's generally the Birmingham garages that are struggling for capacity. If passengers numbers continue to grow & new services/frequencies enhanced they may at some point need additional depot space/depot extentions.

As I see it there are a few options:

1. Build a new open plan depot in South Birmingham that could take the 22, 23, 29, 61, 63, 98, 99 & X64 off BC to free up capacity. BC could then operate any service that enters the City Centre either new or transferred from another garage.
2. Clear the land of withdrawn vehicles at Pensnett, extend that depot and increase capacity there, move some WB routes that serve Dudley in to Pensnett and then transfer the 16 & 101 from PB in to WB to compensate if required
3. Open one or two smaller depots using former Warehouses similar to Bordesley and have them as an outstation of a main garage

[Sayeed]

1. Build a new open plan depot in South Birmingham that could take the 22, 23, 29, 61, 63, 98, 99 & X64 off BC to free up capacity. BC could then operate any service that enters the City Centre either new or transferred from another garage.

They could use the space at Longbridge, opposite of Bournville college and take the 45, 47, 49, 61, 63 and 98, and possibly 29/A

[richie]

What was the reason for closing Hockley   Lea Hall Quintion Washwood Heath
I know there had space at other depots but now they r struggling for space
& how much extra  fuel running dead to the outer termius
compaired to if the garage was still open like woodgate (Quinton)or chelmsley wood (Lea Hall). Now Birmingham Central

Quinton was plagued by noise complaints from local residents and I believe had restrictions imposed on it even though the garage was there before some of the houses. I'm sure the residents are so much better off with the constant flow of traffic 7 days a week due to the Tesco.

The decision to close Lea Hall was made during Dean Finch's review of NX Group businesses,  the closure was due toexcess capacity in Birmingham & to cut costs.

It's generally the Birmingham garages that are struggling for capacity. If passengers numbers continue to grow & new services/frequencies enhanced they may at some point need additional depot space/depot extentions.

As I see it there are a few options:

1. Build a new open plan depot in South Birmingham that could take the 22, 23, 29, 61, 63, 98, 99 & X64 off BC to free up capacity. BC could then operate any service that enters the City Centre either new or transferred from another garage.
2. Clear the land of withdrawn vehicles at Pensnett, extend that depot and increase capacity there, move some WB routes that serve Dudley in to Pensnett and then transfer the 16 & 101 from PB in to WB to compensate if required
3. Open one or two smaller depots using former Warehouses similar to Bordesley and have them as an outstation of a main garage

Halesowen area would be a good place for a depot

[winston]

What was the reason for closing Hockley   Lea Hall Quintion Washwood Heath
I know there had space at other depots but now they r struggling for space
& how much extra  fuel running dead to the outer termius
compaired to if the garage was still open like woodgate (Quinton)or chelmsley wood (Lea Hall). Now Birmingham Central

Quinton was plagued by noise complaints from local residents and I believe had restrictions imposed on it even though the garage was there before some of the houses. I'm sure the residents are so much better off with the constant flow of traffic 7 days a week due to the Tesco.

The decision to close Lea Hall was made during Dean Finch's review of NX Group businesses,  the closure was due toexcess capacity in Birmingham & to cut costs.

It's generally the Birmingham garages that are struggling for capacity. If passengers numbers continue to grow & new services/frequencies enhanced they may at some point need additional depot space/depot extentions.

As I see it there are a few options:

1. Build a new open plan depot in South Birmingham that could take the 22, 23, 29, 61, 63, 98, 99 & X64 off BC to free up capacity. BC could then operate any service that enters the City Centre either new or transferred from another garage.
2. Clear the land of withdrawn vehicles at Pensnett, extend that depot and increase capacity there, move some WB routes that serve Dudley in to Pensnett and then transfer the 16 & 101 from PB in to WB to compensate if required
3. Open one or two smaller depots using former Warehouses similar to Bordesley and have them as an outstation of a main garage

Halesowen area would be a good place for a depot

I agree, quite a central location that could easily serve a number of areas

[nitromatt1]

What was the reason for closing Hockley   Lea Hall Quintion Washwood Heath
I know there had space at other depots but now they r struggling for space
& how much extra  fuel running dead to the outer termius
compaired to if the garage was still open like woodgate (Quinton)or chelmsley wood (Lea Hall). Now Birmingham Central

Quinton was plagued by noise complaints from local residents and I believe had restrictions imposed on it even though the garage was there before some of the houses. I'm sure the residents are so much better off with the constant flow of traffic 7 days a week due to the Tesco.

The decision to close Lea Hall was made during Dean Finch's review of NX Group businesses,  the closure was due toexcess capacity in Birmingham & to cut costs.

It's generally the Birmingham garages that are struggling for capacity. If passengers numbers continue to grow & new services/frequencies enhanced they may at some point need additional depot space/depot extentions.

As I see it there are a few options:

1. Build a new open plan depot in South Birmingham that could take the 22, 23, 29, 61, 63, 98, 99 & X64 off BC to free up capacity. BC could then operate any service that enters the City Centre either new or transferred from another garage.
2. Clear the land of withdrawn vehicles at Pensnett, extend that depot and increase capacity there, move some WB routes that serve Dudley in to Pensnett and then transfer the 16 & 101 from PB in to WB to compensate if required
3. Open one or two smaller depots using former Warehouses similar to Bordesley and have them as an outstation of a main garage

Halesowen area would be a good place for a depot

I agree, quite a central location that could easily serve a number of areas

On the Coombeswood estates somewhere?