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Started by RW, February 21, 2014, 06:56:20 PM

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RW

Spending the weekend in Leeds and struck by the new First Group livery in that it includes the name of the area that vehicles operate in such as  Leeds, Bradford, York etc. Shows a degree of pride in being part of the infrastructure of those areas. Why don't NX adopt a similar approach? Coventry is allowed to incorporate the City's name (and even the local football teams colours) and so is Dundee but the rest of us have to be grouped together under 'West Midlands' a name created purely for local government purposes and not even used by the majority of residents and businesses as part of its postal address. So why can't we have 'national express BIRMINGHAM & SOLIHULL, SANDWELL & DUDLEY, WALSALL and WOLVERHAMPTON'. Why can't NX share the pride we have in the names of our towns and cities? We are not embarrassed by our roots. Are NX? No, then prove it.

Roy

Worst don't do that everywhere.  Bristol, which is one of most historic and largest cities, is referred to as WEST OF ENGLAND by that apology for a bus company.   

Tony

Quote from: RW on February 21, 2014, 06:56:20 PM
Spending the weekend in Leeds and struck by the new First Group livery in that it includes the name of the area that vehicles operate in such as  Leeds, Bradford, York etc. Shows a degree of pride in being part of the infrastructure of those areas. Why don't NX adopt a similar approach? Coventry is allowed to incorporate the City's name (and even the local football teams colours) and so is Dundee but the rest of us have to be grouped together under 'West Midlands' a name created purely for local government purposes and not even used by the majority of residents and businesses as part of its postal address. So why can't we have 'national express BIRMINGHAM & SOLIHULL, SANDWELL & DUDLEY, WALSALL and WOLVERHAMPTON'. Why can't NX share the pride we have in the names of our towns and cities? We are not embarrassed by our roots. Are NX? No, then prove it.

The West Midlands is the most practical name to use, very few services now stay within one Town/City. Why do you want Sandwell if you don't want West Midlands? Should buses on the 126 have NX Wolverhampton; NX Dudley; NX Sandwell; NX Birmingham all on the side?

Why do you not want Stourbridge, Bilston, Willenhall? All towns in their own right just as much as Dudley & Solihull, and certainly more so than Sandwell

nitromatt1

Quote from: RW on February 21, 2014, 06:56:20 PM
Spending the weekend in Leeds and struck by the new First Group livery in that it includes the name of the area that vehicles operate in such as  Leeds, Bradford, York etc. Shows a degree of pride in being part of the infrastructure of those areas. Why don't NX adopt a similar approach? Coventry is allowed to incorporate the City's name (and even the local football teams colours) and so is Dundee but the rest of us have to be grouped together under 'West Midlands' a name created purely for local government purposes and not even used by the majority of residents and businesses as part of its postal address. So why can't we have 'national express BIRMINGHAM & SOLIHULL, SANDWELL & DUDLEY, WALSALL and WOLVERHAMPTON'. Why can't NX share the pride we have in the names of our towns and cities? We are not embarrassed by our roots. Are NX? No, then prove it.

The Nimbuses (or 'Nimbi'?!!) at Worcester also have Worcester on the side, I saw one quite far from home once on Smallbrook Queensway, need I name the service.

Liberator9

#4
Wouldn't be practical to have so many names; apart from what the 126 for example would have there is also the issue of when buses are transferred or loaned to other garages. Take for example if a WA Scania was loaned to AG. If the WA Scania had Walsall on it and operating on the 37 it would look messy and confusing for some even. Plus if a bus did change garage then the name tag needs changing and may leave the previous mark just visible on the paintwork. I'd be happy with a livery that actually was historical colours, such as the blue and cream, instead of the bland red and white. I could just imagine blue and cream on this style!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dbdi/8234907159/sizes/z/in/photolist-dxG3ZV-7LeMNL-aoEFUD-bkq84W-aqe3PR-8K4n9n-8FoQ2S-aqgJPb-dc2dYH-aw2dap-9Wc96J-9HM99i-arkkpF-arkjcp-8FAwCC-auBBjG-dKb1ti-8aefdK-crDUAA-8Eh9MX-bxbjXJ-9kFTTk-du2edF-9TrJCD-bdU1nX-bhCvv6-bcS9yR-7UuFCp-dcVHG1-abL49f-8otchs-aoKFJE-dcNFPz-atnSko-dj2XWA-7zYapt-dcNJiY-bBG2mg-dkP5i4-dkP5g8-aoS3WW-88AJeh-88xu5X-88AHH7-9vxo6F-88xwxn-88xvfz-88AJtu-dkxYJ9-cgDUxW-d1upim/

trident4370

Until recently there was a facebook page dedicated to getting Coventry buses rebranded back to NXWM, imagine the campaigns if NXWM was split up...

Stuharris 6360

What about National Express Birmingham & The Black Country?
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

uniquicity

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 21, 2014, 07:18:13 PM
What about National Express Birmingham & The Black Country?

You'll need a fleet of bendybuses for that long a name.

Trident 4609

Didn't buses have local fleetnames back in the early 90's?As with various comments already made if you have loans or transfers to other garages it will look out of place. There are various photos on flickr of PB Metrobuses on loan to Park Lane with Perry Barr fleetnames

PM

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 21, 2014, 07:18:13 PM
What about National Express Birmingham & The Black Country?

Again, some services cross over and it would kind of be pointless. As has been said, taking it ad extremis, where do you stop? Network Harborne anyone when many of the buses went to many different places besides Harborne. I think West Midlands is perfectly fine.

Yes, West Midlands Buses and then Yardley Wood for instance. A 90s experiment that clearly didn't work

winston

Quote from: Nathan on February 21, 2014, 07:26:24 PM
Didn't buses have local fleetnames back in the early 90's?As with various comments already made if you have loans or transfers to other garages it will look out of place. There are various photos on flickr of PB Metrobuses on loan to Park Lane with Perry Barr fleetnames

Yes back in the days of WMBuses they carried the name of the depot they were allocated too

RW

Sorry Tony but Bilston is part of Wolverhampton, Willenhall is part of Walsall. Stourbridge is not part of West Midlands so that name already has no relevance to that town and Coventry uses the District Name already so what about transfers/loans from that depot now? Why are people so opposed to change. It might just give people more ownership of the major provider of public transport in the region which can only be of benefit to NX. Seems some opposition is based purely on the view of a certain bus company and nothing to do with the suggestion itself.

Trident 4609

Quote from: RW on February 21, 2014, 07:54:16 PM
Sorry Tony but Bilston is part of Wolverhampton, Willenhall is part of Walsall. Stourbridge is not part of West Midlands so that name already has no relevance to that town and Coventry uses the District Name already so what about transfers/loans from that depot now? Why are people so opposed to change. It might just give people more ownership of the major provider of public transport in the region which can only be of benefit to NX. Seems some opposition is based purely on the view of a certain bus company and nothing to do with the suggestion itself.

Err Stourbridge is part of the West Midlands. Its in the Dudley Borough!

PM

Quote from: RW on February 21, 2014, 07:54:16 PM
Sorry Tony but Bilston is part of Wolverhampton, Willenhall is part of Walsall. Stourbridge is not part of West Midlands so that name already has no relevance to that town and Coventry uses the District Name already so what about transfers/loans from that depot now? Why are people so opposed to change. It might just give people more ownership of the major provider of public transport in the region which can only be of benefit to NX. Seems some opposition is based purely on the view of a certain bus company and nothing to do with the suggestion itself.

The opposition is purely practical. The many companies do not always show where they actually operate eg Yellow Buses, Hansons, Diamond, even Trent Barton doesn't entirely describe where their buses run and the same with McGills-I don't really think people need Birmingham written on the side and West Midlands is pretty good as it is and more than you get from a lot of companies. There are more important things than pointless name changes...

Trident 4609

#14
Quote from: RW on February 21, 2014, 07:54:16 PM
Sorry Tony but Bilston is part of Wolverhampton, Willenhall is part of Walsall. Stourbridge is not part of West Midlands so that name already has no relevance to that town and Coventry uses the District Name already so what about transfers/loans from that depot now? Why are people so opposed to change. It might just give people more ownership of the major provider of public transport in the region which can only be of benefit to NX. Seems some opposition is based purely on the view of a certain bus company and nothing to do with the suggestion itself.

I'm sorry but you can't critisise the fact some people have opposing views! Not all people are going to agree and it is a forum so we should listen to each others views :)

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