Arriva Leicester

[Busman Jamie]

Aren't those on loan to Arriva Midlands?

[Bob]

I think if just on loan they just put 'on loan to...' in windscreen and wouldnt have to put lettering on side of bus. Not 100 percent sure tho lol

[Tony]

I think if just on loan they just put 'on loan to...' in windscreen and wouldnt have to put lettering on side of bus. Not 100 percent sure tho lol

Not allowed to do that for more than 14 days. After two week they have to run on the correct operating licence

[Tony]

Currently being delivered to Wigston are

YY67HDA
4536-MD
YY67HDC
4537-MD
YY67HDD
4538-MD
YY67HDE
4539-MD
YY67HDF
4540-MD
YY67HDG
4541-MD
YY67HDH
4542-MD
YY67HDJ
4543-MD
YY67HDK
4544-MD
YY67HDL
4545-MD
YY67HDN
4546-MD
 

[47609FireFly]

Currently being delivered to Wigston are

YY67HDA
4536-MD
YY67HDC
4537-MD
YY67HDD
4538-MD
YY67HDE
4539-MD
YY67HDF
4540-MD
YY67HDG
4541-MD
YY67HDH
4542-MD
YY67HDJ
4543-MD
YY67HDK
4544-MD
YY67HDL
4545-MD
YY67HDN
4546-MD

Thanks for that. Do we know if they are the 'City' version of the E400MMC (like these: https://www.flickr.com/photos/northernsoutherner/35731719545/ ) or the full fat version of the E400MMC like buses 4501 to 4535?

[47609FireFly]

Not allowed to do that for more than 14 days. After two week they have to run on the correct operating licence

Not quite. The 14 day rule is a sort of 'get out of jail free' card to allow operators to run additional vehicles if additional, unforeseen work crops up (usually on an emergency basis). In this case, the vehicle remains on the O-licence of its owner and the owner is responsible for the vehicle maintenance. The vehicles currently in Leicester have had 'Arriva Midlands' legal addresses applied and should be running on Arriva Midlands' O-licences (PF0007085) because, as far as I can tell, they are being looked after, from a maintenance perspective by Leicester. That said, I snapped bus 2638 working route 55 on 29/11/2017, a route registered to PF0007085, with a 'Centrebus Holdings' O-licence in the window. Not good for compliance.

[47609FireFly]

As mentioned in the above post, here are some views of 2638 in service in Leicester on 29/11/2017:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP5HwG5WsAAxi4c.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP5HwFnXUAAZFb6.jpg ---> showing the 'Centrebus Holdings', standard national, O-licence.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP5HwGyWsAATImu.jpg ---> legal address change to Arriva Midlands (not Centrebus Holdings).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP5HwGwX0AAYqrc.jpg ---> working a route registered to the PF0007085 licence.

[mark114]

These new buses 4536-4546 is there a delivery dates for them

Mark

[Tony]

These new buses 4536-4546 is there a delivery dates for them

Mark

This is the exact wording of the email I received from Arriva

The following vehicles are now in process of delivery to Wigston for route 31/31a, the current Sapphire vehicles will be cascaded to another Wigston Route

[mark114]

Hi Tony thank you so much for replying to my post regarding 4536-4546

Mark

[47609FireFly]

4536 and 4537 were in service, on route 31, from this afternoon.

A number of the Sapphire B7TLs have had their 31/31A route branding removed and were at work on routes 44/44A today.

[47609FireFly]

4004 seen at work, at Aberdale Road, on route 44 on 01/12/2017: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQCa0nsUQAAIxl5.jpg

Despite the route branding for route 31/31A being removed, it is still clearly visible on the bodyside!

[markcf83]

Would the new arrivals see off some of the older double deckers in Leicester?

[Tony]

Arriva have just sent me a photo of one of these which will be on the main site later, Are these the first vehicles in the UK to have the new logo on?

[leepenfold30]

I think 4015-4028 will leave Wigston very soon