Birmingham Central Routes (History)

[monkeyjoe]

I was just thinking to myself in terms of the routes run from Liverpool Street, is there still a route or a corridor that has always been operated out of this depot and to current day still is. I was struggling to think of any where this still applies.

I.e Bristol Rd (Did they start out of Selly Oak)
Pershore >>> Cotteridge
Cov Rd >>> Cov Rd depot
Harborne >> Quniton / Harborne etc

and so on?

Historians when LS opened which route/ corridors did they operate?

I am just curious probably ot too much time on my hands this morning

[Gareth]

Off the top of my head, I cannot think I of one BC route that wasn't run by another garage at some point. However I suppose back in BCT and. WMPTE days there were many small garages, and many shred their routes with others. So I suppose it's possible they had some workings on some of those routes.

[B.C Driver]

I know LS operated the 50 for a very long time, but not sure if it was when the garage opened.

I know LS operated the 16 when it was shared with HY and ran cross city.

They operated the 8 for a long time too.

They did some trips on the 28 too

[lynx1103]

Harbour routes are ex Quinton Hockley Yardley Wood

22/23

To Birmingham Central June 1997
Ex Quinton

21/29

To Birmingham Central May 2005
Ex-Hockley
May 2002-Ex Yardley Wood
June 1997 EX Quinton

103

To  Birmingham Central June 1997
EX Quinton

To Hockley May 2002
Returned may 2005

Re-numbered 24 around 2011

[monkeyjoe]

I think Moseley Road would have operated the 50.

I am struggling to think of a single route that has stayed with LS since opening.

[Tony]

I think Moseley Road would have operated the 50.

I am struggling to think of a single route that has stayed with LS since opening.

I cannot remember which way around it was, but the 53 and 54 were operated one by Liverpool Street, and one by Coventry Road. These are now the 97 route, so although they had a big break when at Lea Hall, one original route is back there (of sorts)

[Mike K]

Harbour routes are ex Quinton Hockley Yardley Wood

22/23

To Birmingham Central June 1997
Ex Quinton

21/29

To Birmingham Central May 2005
Ex-Hockley
May 2002-Ex Yardley Wood
June 1997 EX Quinton

103

To  Birmingham Central June 1997
EX Quinton

To Hockley May 2002
Returned may 2005

Re-numbered 24 around 2011

And before all that, Harborne routes 21/29 and 22/23 were ex Harborne garage. Back in the good old days.

[Kevin]

I suppose the same question could be asked of all depots... Perry Barr? Walsall? Acocks Green?
Intriguing...

[Justin Tyme]

Liverpool Street ran services such as the 8, 15/16, 17, 19 and 28 for many years.  In 1972 it took on the 50 when Moseley Road closed for the first time, and later a number of ex-Midland Red services including the 159 (now 900) and 176 (now 957) when Moseley Road closed for the second time in 1975.

The closure of Coventry Road, Cotteridge and Selly Oak in the 1980s brought in the Cov Road, Pershore Road and Bristol Road services, and Lynx 1103 has already covered the Quinton closure in the 1990s.  I believe the 900 and 957 and predecessors have been at Birmingham Central for the longest period of time.

All other garages have run a few services continuously since before World War 2.  Here are a few examples - this is not a complete list: Yardley Wood has the 2  and 18; Acocks Green has the 1, 11 and 31; and Perry Barr has the 33.  Walsall has the 6; West Bromwich has the 5, 40 and 74; Wolverhampton has the 529; and Coventry has the 20.

[monkeyjoe]

Liverpool Street ran services such as the 8, 15/16, 17, 19 and 28 for many years.  In 1972 it took on the 50 when Moseley Road closed for the first time, and later a number of ex-Midland Red services including the 159 (now 900) and 176 (now 957) when Moseley Road closed for the second time in 1975.

The closure of Coventry Road, Cotteridge and Selly Oak in the 1980s brought in the Cov Road, Pershore Road and Bristol Road services, and Lynx 1103 has already covered the Quinton closure in the 1990s.  I believe the 900 and 957 and predecessors have been at Birmingham Central for the longest period of time.

All other garages have run a few services continuously since before World War 2.  Here are a few examples - this is not a complete list: Yardley Wood has the 2  and 18; Acocks Green has the 1, 11 and 31; and Perry Barr has the 33.  Walsall has the 6; West Bromwich has the 5, 40 and 74; Wolverhampton has the 529; and Coventry has the 20.

Interesting; just a quick one didn't WA operate the 529 originally or was it shared with CR/PL

[busfan2847]

Liverpool Street ran services such as the 8, 15/16, 17, 19 and 28 for many years.  In 1972 it took on the 50 when Moseley Road closed for the first time, and later a number of ex-Midland Red services including the 159 (now 900) and 176 (now 957) when Moseley Road closed for the second time in 1975.

The closure of Coventry Road, Cotteridge and Selly Oak in the 1980s brought in the Cov Road, Pershore Road and Bristol Road services, and Lynx 1103 has already covered the Quinton closure in the 1990s.  I believe the 900 and 957 and predecessors have been at Birmingham Central for the longest period of time.

All other garages have run a few services continuously since before World War 2.  Here are a few examples - this is not a complete list: Yardley Wood has the 2  and 18; Acocks Green has the 1, 11 and 31; and Perry Barr has the 33.  Walsall has the 6; West Bromwich has the 5, 40 and 74; Wolverhampton has the 529; and Coventry has the 20.

Interesting; just a quick one didn't WA operate the 529 originally or was it shared with CR/PL

The 529 (originally 29) was operated by Walsall and Wolverhampton Corporations jointly with trolleybuses after the trams were replaced. The replacement bus service was also joint Walsall, Wolverhampton for many years.

[busfan2847]

Liverpool Street ran services such as the 8, 15/16, 17, 19 and 28 for many years.  In 1972 it took on the 50 when Moseley Road closed for the first time, and later a number of ex-Midland Red services including the 159 (now 900) and 176 (now 957) when Moseley Road closed for the second time in 1975.

The closure of Coventry Road, Cotteridge and Selly Oak in the 1980s brought in the Cov Road, Pershore Road and Bristol Road services, and Lynx 1103 has already covered the Quinton closure in the 1990s.  I believe the 900 and 957 and predecessors have been at Birmingham Central for the longest period of time.

All other garages have run a few services continuously since before World War 2.  Here are a few examples - this is not a complete list: Yardley Wood has the 2  and 18; Acocks Green has the 1, 11 and 31; and Perry Barr has the 33.  Walsall has the 6; West Bromwich has the 5, 40 and 74; Wolverhampton has the 529; and Coventry has the 20.

When Liverpool St opened in September 1936 it operated part of the 8 as well as many of the routes to the east of the city. At that time Coventry Rd was a trolleybus garage for the Coventry Rd routes, Washwood Heath a tram depot and Le Hall not built (Apr 1955).

[monkeyjoe]

Liverpool Street ran services such as the 8, 15/16, 17, 19 and 28 for many years.  In 1972 it took on the 50 when Moseley Road closed for the first time, and later a number of ex-Midland Red services including the 159 (now 900) and 176 (now 957) when Moseley Road closed for the second time in 1975.

The closure of Coventry Road, Cotteridge and Selly Oak in the 1980s brought in the Cov Road, Pershore Road and Bristol Road services, and Lynx 1103 has already covered the Quinton closure in the 1990s.  I believe the 900 and 957 and predecessors have been at Birmingham Central for the longest period of time.

All other garages have run a few services continuously since before World War 2.  Here are a few examples - this is not a complete list: Yardley Wood has the 2  and 18; Acocks Green has the 1, 11 and 31; and Perry Barr has the 33.  Walsall has the 6; West Bromwich has the 5, 40 and 74; Wolverhampton has the 529; and Coventry has the 20.

When Liverpool St opened in September 1936 it operated part of the 8 as well as many of the routes to the east of the city. At that time Coventry Rd was a trolleybus garage for the Coventry Rd routes, Washwood Heath a tram depot and Le Hall not built (Apr 1955).

Does it make it of the oldest brum depots still going then? (Which is if not this one?) Ta

[busfan2847]

Liverpool Street ran services such as the 8, 15/16, 17, 19 and 28 for many years.  In 1972 it took on the 50 when Moseley Road closed for the first time, and later a number of ex-Midland Red services including the 159 (now 900) and 176 (now 957) when Moseley Road closed for the second time in 1975.

The closure of Coventry Road, Cotteridge and Selly Oak in the 1980s brought in the Cov Road, Pershore Road and Bristol Road services, and Lynx 1103 has already covered the Quinton closure in the 1990s.  I believe the 900 and 957 and predecessors have been at Birmingham Central for the longest period of time.

All other garages have run a few services continuously since before World War 2.  Here are a few examples - this is not a complete list: Yardley Wood has the 2  and 18; Acocks Green has the 1, 11 and 31; and Perry Barr has the 33.  Walsall has the 6; West Bromwich has the 5, 40 and 74; Wolverhampton has the 529; and Coventry has the 20.

When Liverpool St opened in September 1936 it operated part of the 8 as well as many of the routes to the east of the city. At that time Coventry Rd was a trolleybus garage for the Coventry Rd routes, Washwood Heath a tram depot and Le Hall not built (Apr 1955).

Does it make it of the oldest brum depots still going then? (Which is if not this one?) Ta

(Miller St - Jan 1904 first BCT tram depot)
Acocks Green - June 1928
Perry Barr - Aug 1931

Later one
Yardley Wood - Nov 1938

[monkeyjoe]

Very nostalgic  :) Cheers.