NXWM new vehicles for 2014

[wilmotm (Matt Wilmot)]

To me it seems that NE want to see rid of the Mercs much earlier than we had anticipated, maybe that they are costing them more money than they want to spend (there always seems to be a queue of them at PE awaiting attention).

But as we all know, that policy could change next week, if not tomorrow!

The problems causing fires in the Mercs at PN have been sorted now, so we should see a decrease in the frequency of Merc fires

The last fire was not the same cause as the previous two! Same as the two presidents at AG both had very different causes

There have been more than 3 Merc fires at Pensnett recently...

Has there? And you know the causes of them all?

No, I know the cause of some of them

1663, 1664, 1644, 1658 were the notable examples, plus there have been instances of others such as 1628 suffering minor fires, many of which will go unreported to the general public

Go on then tell us the causes of any of them

I can go one better and tell you the cause of any fire in any bus ever! Or any fire ever in the history of fire for that matter

Fuel + Oxygen + Heat

;D

[windy miller]

4939 in pristine livery seen late last night (sat 28/12/) on the 907 svc...can anyone confirm the names of 4920,4924,4930,and 4931 please? thanks

[John]

4939 in pristine livery seen late last night (sat 28/12/) on the 907 svc...can anyone confirm the names of 4920,4924,4930,and 4931 please? thanks

4920 - Caitlin Rose
4924 - Ava-Mai
4930 - Megan Louise
4931 - Shakirah

[windy miller]

Many thanks John

[PaddyGraham]

I heard the 50 is being upgraded to brand new buses.Anyone know incidentally if 4916 is off the road.Saw 4937 on 16 today also 1864 and 4283 on 904 thought only new ones allowed on Sutton routes.

[Rob H]

I heard the 50 is being upgraded to brand new buses.Anyone know incidentally if 4916 is off the road.Saw 4937 on 16 today also 1864 and 4283 on 904 thought only new ones allowed on Sutton routes.

I think 4940-4979 are destined for Birmingham Central for the Pershore Road and possibly the Bristol Road aswell but I could be wrong :)

[Stuharris 6360]

Why is the 50 being upgraded when there are other routes which could benefit from new buses.

[Trident 4609]

I heard the 50 is being upgraded to brand new buses.Anyone know incidentally if 4916 is off the road.Saw 4937 on 16 today also 1864 and 4283 on 904 thought only new ones allowed on Sutton routes.

If you are talking about the new E400's, Some of the new E400's are not branded for Sutton Line so they are used on other PB routes

[Tony]

I heard the 50 is being upgraded to brand new buses.Anyone know incidentally if 4916 is off the road.Saw 4937 on 16 today also 1864 and 4283 on 904 thought only new ones allowed on Sutton routes.

I think 4940-4979 are destined for Birmingham Central for the Pershore Road and possibly the Bristol Road aswell but I could be wrong :)

As there is no 4940-4979 on order, I am not sure why you would think that.

[Stuharris 6360]

I heard the 50 is being upgraded to brand new buses.Anyone know incidentally if 4916 is off the road.Saw 4937 on 16 today also 1864 and 4283 on 904 thought only new ones allowed on Sutton routes.

I think 4940-4979 are destined for Birmingham Central for the Pershore Road and possibly the Bristol Road aswell but I could be wrong :)

As there is no 4940-4979 on order, I am not sure why you would think that.

Why does the name of this topic keeps changing?

[Sh4318]

Why is the 50 being upgraded when there are other routes which could benefit from new buses.

I can certainly see scope for the 50 to be upgraded, being the most frequent service/one of the busiest in the West Midlands. But other routes also deserve an upgrade, personally, I'd like to see the Dudley Road upgraded

[Kevin_Brum12]

Why is the 50 being upgraded when there are other routes which could benefit from new buses.

I can certainly see scope for the 50 to be upgraded, being the most frequent service/one of the busiest in the West Midlands. But other routes also deserve an upgrade, personally, I'd like to see the Dudley Road upgraded

Also financial and business considerations come into play, with the 50 having the most competition (three operators), largest patronage and a captive market (there is no competing rail service).   Traditionally its always had first pick of new vehicles with a cascade following around NXWM.   That isn't to say there is a need to upgrade other routes and I think its time Bristol Road and Pershore Road was given a make-over (though to be fair a refurbished Trident can fool the irregular traveller into thinking its a new bus).

[windy miller]

As I think winston pointed out recently there is a very neat NXWM log book with a glossy cover available from the Ian allan Bookshop (Just off Navigation street) Birmingham. I had a quick look at it on a recent visit and I can confirm that there is a listing for 4940-4979. obviously without any details/registrations. The book also has all the NX dundee fleet listings. As I said, A neat publication but a bit thin!.  Is it worth £3.50? :-\ :-\

[winston]

I heard the 50 is being upgraded to brand new buses.Anyone know incidentally if 4916 is off the road.Saw 4937 on 16 today also 1864 and 4283 on 904 thought only new ones allowed on Sutton routes.

I think 4940-4979 are destined for Birmingham Central for the Pershore Road and possibly the Bristol Road aswell but I could be wrong :)

As there is no 4940-4979 on order, I am not sure why you would think that.

No doubt a certain NXWM fleet list in Ian Allen Bookshop has bowled us all a curved ball.....

Why is the 50 being upgraded when there are other routes which could benefit from new buses.

I can certainly see scope for the 50 to be upgraded, being the most frequent service/one of the busiest in the West Midlands. But other routes also deserve an upgrade, personally, I'd like to see the Dudley Road upgraded

Also financial and business considerations come into play, with the 50 having the most competition (three operators), largest patronage and a captive market (there is no competing rail service).   Traditionally its always had first pick of new vehicles with a cascade following around NXWM.   That isn't to say there is a need to upgrade other routes and I think its time Bristol Road and Pershore Road was given a make-over (though to be fair a refurbished Trident can fool the irregular traveller into thinking its a new bus).

There's still which 10 corridors are going to be upgraded to 'Gold' standard to take in to account. They will no doubt dictate where many of the new buses ate destined

[lauren1993]

I think Coventry's route 13 should be upgraded with brand new 63 or 14 plate Geminis. It is one of the busiest routes in Coventry and one of the longest main routes. They did buy 10 geminis for the route in 2005, but with the pvr increasing over the years meaning more variety of vehicles must appear on the 13 and the geminis aging and being used on all routes, it's about time NX ordered some new geminis, as they are on good terms with wright, seeing as they order all those B7's last year.