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98/99 Branding.

Started by jnl1984, November 24, 2013, 09:09:39 PM

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jnl1984

Does anyone know of any reason as to why the 99 was branded and the 98 not?

Mike K

I think it was to do with the fact that a lot of journeys on the 98 inter worked with the X64, including for example on Sundays. Not sure of the extent of inter working now.

The 99 uses a dedicated vehicle type just for that route and doesn't inter work with anything.

Liverpool Street

Quote from: Mike K on November 24, 2013, 09:51:37 PM
I think it was to do with the fact that a lot of journeys on the 98 inter worked with the X64, including for example on Sundays. Not sure of the extent of inter working now.

Still extensive, Mike. Near all late nights and peak workings/mornings. Don't think the daytimes do any more. I'll have to speak to my mate off that road to see if the daytime interwork.
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nx4737

Those E200's are already covered in dents and scrapes...

Liverpool Street

Quote from: nx4737 on November 24, 2013, 10:20:41 PM
Those E200's are already covered in dents and scrapes...

And the red has started to fade on some of them.

But with the route they do I'd expect a certain amount of damage. But for a vehicle only a year old... actually -- have you seen the state of some of them BC B7RLE's?
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One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
Quote from: karl724223
until it cought fire

Blakey

Quote from: Mike K on November 24, 2013, 09:51:37 PM
I think it was to do with the fact that a lot of journeys on the 98 inter worked with the X64, including for example on Sundays. Not sure of the extent of inter working now.

The 99 uses a dedicated vehicle type just for that route and doesn't inter work with anything.

Some late evening journeys on the 98 are ran on 99 running boards

CL

Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 24, 2013, 10:28:58 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on November 24, 2013, 10:20:41 PM
Those E200's are already covered in dents and scrapes...

And the red has started to fade on some of them.

But with the route they do I'd expect a certain amount of damage. But for a vehicle only a year old... actually -- have you seen the state of some of them BC B7RLE's?

I agree! With the tight roads around Welsh House Farm area. I remember once, when the B6's were still in use, the 99 was stuck there for at least 5 - 10 minutes, due to a taxi blocking the road and another B6 adjacent.

Also, ahas anybody else notice that some of the 99 brandings are coming off? I think it's 804 or 808, where the front panel is now back to it's old form.
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Wouldn't be 808 as it isn't branded full stop

nitromatt1

805 is the Enviro without front bumper branding.

nx4737

Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 24, 2013, 10:28:58 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on November 24, 2013, 10:20:41 PM
Those E200's are already covered in dents and scrapes...

And the red has started to fade on some of them.

But with the route they do I'd expect a certain amount of damage. But for a vehicle only a year old... actually -- have you seen the state of some of them BC B7RLE's?

Yeah, I saw a BC B7 outside New Street Station a few days ago and was actually shocked by the state of it, faded red front and a dent (well, more like a small cavern) stretching the length of 2 panels... Can't recall the fleet number though.

Mike K

804 and 807 have both lost their rear branding, in the case of 807 at least, it was following a rear end collision. It's a shame they don't reapply branding when panels or windows are replaced, they do seem to make more of an effort with the Hybrids than they do with these E200s, e.g. 5502 (rear window) and 5501.

jnl1984

Are there any changes proposed to either of these routes when the network review takes place?

Liverpool Street

Isn't the 99 going to be stopped from doing that stupid u-turn at Harborne Lane/Melchett Lane/QEHB learning hub? It only does it off-peak anyway.
Quote from: 2900
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
Quote from: karl724223
until it cought fire

Liverpool Street

Quote from: Blakey on December 28, 2013, 08:41:48 PM
X64 to Woodgate after February - maybe!! Rumour has it the 98 will be curtailed and reintroduction of the X62!

Are you a driver, per chance? Or have you just been re-reading some old posts?
Quote from: 2900
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
Quote from: karl724223
until it cought fire

Mike K

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And are you Blakey as in "I'll 'ave you Butler!" or is that your real name?!

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