London Buses.

[j789]

Yes, but I do wonder whether TFL can run the buses with the rear door locked out of use, in an emergency people would run down the stairs only to be greeted by a locked door and so delaying them getting off the bus!

I'd think that the rear doors would not be classed as emergency exits as the bus does already have sufficient emergency exits elsewhere on it like any normal bus, so they could shut this exit surely.

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route        Current Operator            New Operator                     PVR        Vehicles
218             N/A    (new route)          Tower Transit                      11         Existing Single Decker
278             N/A    (new route)          Abellio West London           10         Existing Single Decker
285*           London United               Abellio West London           15         New Euro VI Hybrid Decker
427            Abellio West London       Abellio West London           tbc       2017 Euro VI Hybrid Decker

* 24 hour route.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:
7th December 2019: Routes 218 & 278.
11th April 2020: Route 427.
27th June 2020: Route 285.   

[markcf83]

Wonder where Tower and Abellio are to source the buses for the 218/278 given they have very few spare now....

[Ian Hardy]

Wonder where Tower and Abellio are to source the buses for the 218/278 given they have very few spare now....

Tower Transit has the 8 hydrogen buses spare now the RV1 has been withdrawn, these are being used on the 444 so the Streetlites are spare.

Abellio are converting the 407 to double deck on 24th August (PVR 16), the 10.8m E200s are going to move to 490 so there will be some spare 10.1m E200.

Tower Transit lose the 444 (which has a PVR  of 11) to Go Ahead on 7th March 2020
Abellio have won a new contract on C10 with electric buses from 21st March 2020 so the E200MMCs that are currently on the route will be spare, the C10 PVR is 20.

[Stuharris 6360]

The 218 is Hammersmith to North Acton and the 278 is Heathrow Central to Ruislip.

[Ian Hardy]

Tower Transit has the 8 hydrogen buses spare now the RV1 has been withdrawn, these are being used on the 444 so the Streetlites are spare.

Abellio are converting the 407 to double deck on 24th August (PVR 16), the 10.8m E200s are going to move to 490 so there will be some spare 10.1m E200.

Tower Transit lose the 444 (which has a PVR  of 11) to Go Ahead on 7th March 2020
Abellio have won a new contract on C10 with electric buses from 21st March 2020 so the E200MMCs that are currently on the route will be spare, the C10 PVR is 20.

Ooops, the 278 needs double deckers so ignore the comment about the 407 & C10. Abellio's routes 3 & 45 were shortened in the Central London reorg so there are spare double deckers.

[Stuharris 6360]

Ooops, the 278 needs double deckers so ignore the comment about the 407 & C10. Abellio's routes 3 & 45 were shortened in the Central London reorg so there are spare double deckers.

Ooops from me as well, the 278 should have read Double Decker in my original post.

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route        Current Operator            New Operator                     PVR        Vehicles
271*          Metroline                         Metroline                             14         Existing Hybrid double decker (a)
331            Metroline West                Metroline West                     8         2015 Euro VI diesel single deck
460            Metroline                         Metroline                              10        2015 Euro VI diesel single deck
498            Stagecoach East London Stagecoach East London       6        2015 Euro VI diesel single deck
499            Stagecoach East London Stagecoach East London       7        2015 Euro VI diesel single deck
K1              Abellio West London        London United                     14        New Euro VI diesel single deck (b)

* 24 hour route.

(a) Euro V & Euro VI built 2012 - 2014. Euro V vehicles will be upgraded to Euro VI.

(b) Two vehicles built 2014.



The above contracts will commence on the following dates:



4th April 2020: Route 271.

27th June 2020: Routes 460, 498, 499 & K1.

4th July 2020: Route 331.

[Cheese]

A London liveried AD Enviro 400 EV City is currently parked on the Stratford Road just south of Robin Hood Island. On trade plates, not sure if this was at the NEC show a week or so ago?

[Tony]

A London liveried AD Enviro 400 EV City is currently parked on the Stratford Road just south of Robin Hood Island. On trade plates, not sure if this was at the NEC show a week or so ago?

On loan to NXWM being tested on the 6 route ready for when the new ones arrive. (No passengers)

[Ian Hardy]

TfL has published their Tendering Programme for 2021-2022:
https://tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/uploads/forms/lbsl-tendering-programme-2021-2022.pdf

There is also more Bus Tender information on this TfL webpage:
https://tfl.gov.uk/forms/13923.aspx

Ian Hardy

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route        Current Operator            New Operator                     PVR        Vehicles
23             Tower Transit                   Tower Transit                      24          New Electric Double Decker
139           London Sovereign            Metroline                            23          New & Existing hybrid vehicles
202           Metrobus                          Arriva London (south)        15          New hybrid double decker
319*         Arriva London (south)      Arriva London (south)         19          New electric double decker
326           Metroline                          Metroline                              7          Existing diesel single decker
405           Metrobus                          Arriva London (south)          9          New hybrid double decker
466           Arriva London (south)      Arriva London (south)          19         Existing diesel double decker
C3             Abellio London                 Tower Transit                        9          New Electric double decker
N5**         Metroline                          London Sovereign               n/a        Existing hybrid double decker
N20           Metroline                          Metroline                              n/a       existing hybrid double decker

* 24 hour route (319 weekends only).

** Night only routes using buses sourced from day routes.

All diesel & hybrid vehicles will meet Euro VI emissions standards.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

25th July 2020: Routes 23, 326, N5 & N20.
29th August 2020: Route 139, 405 & 466.
12th September 2020: Route 319.
19th September 2020: Route 202.
3rd October 2020: Route C3,
24th October 2020: Route 324

Electric vehicles may enter service later than these dates owing to infrastructure delivery timescales.

[markcf83]

Heard that the 202 is going to be run by Norwood. Presumably the 405 will be run by Croydon.

[Ian Hardy]

Perhaps the new outstation on Beddington Farm Road, Croydon will be emptied of withdrawn vehicles so that there could be a shuffle of routes between N, TC & TH to make room for the 202 & 405 at N & TC.

[markcf83]

Unofficially I've heard there is room at both garages mentioned for the work. Remember Croydon lost the 403 not that long ago and Norwood's buses are parked in a yard next to the garage which is quite substantial in size.