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Started by Simon Dunn, August 28, 2013, 06:28:19 AM

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Simon Dunn

Quote from: DiamondDart on November 12, 2013, 06:10:50 PM
Hi Simon

Just a few more questions for you if that's ok?

1) Why were the 04 reg eclipses sold as the eclipse seems a good product
2)It seems that a lot of the repaints of the existing diamond fleet have stopped-is this because paint booths are being occupied by acquired buses/primos going back to service etc? For instance, are there plans to repaint the cadets?
3)Why was W767URP renumbered from 20506 to 20867. Is rotala trying to fill in the gaps in terms of fleet numbering, as I see the preston citaro is also renumbered.  Would it not be easier to have a block for solos, a block for MPDs, e200s and another for primos.
4) Is 30929 permanently moved to long acre now as this is where it has worked from for some time?
5) Will 30000 be heading back to wessex?
6) Will 20656 or 20182 be coming back into service?
Lastly, how does rotala decide which buses to repaint. In other words, how many years' life would rotala expect out of a bus that had been repainted recently as a minimum-for instance the HEC, SVV darts that have recently been returned to service.

Many Thanks and just to say what a brilliant idea I think the free travel for armed forces people is-a credit to the company and whoever came up with it. Best of luck with continuing to run a good operation in the run up to Christmas.

Peter


Peter,

1.  We had hoped to acquire more businesses than we did last year, and we were managing our overall group leverage.  They were sold at the same time as new buses were acquired.
2.  We have buses continually going through paint.  Unfortunately, nothing happens as fast as we would like.
3.  Our fleet numbers is based upon length/dda/etc.  W767URP was renumbered as there was a clash.
4.  30929 - I am not sure. 
5.  30000 - No
6.  20182 - No
     20656 - Possibly, but no plans at  the minute

We expect a paint job to last between 2 and 3 years.  However, we assess what needs painting based upon condition, damage, and long term view on the vehicle.

Thank you

Simon

Simon Dunn

Quote from: Stu on November 12, 2013, 06:23:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 12, 2013, 08:24:43 AM
Hi again Simon

Do you know anything about these clowns
http://cityfoxgroup.com/board-of-directors/4573019338

2nd director claims to have worked for you, along with almost everyone else in 6 years!

They are claiming to have taken Claribels over on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/cityfoxtraining?ref=stream
(The photo of YJ12HJD) has been stolen from my website and Claribels have always contacted me if they want to use one so don't believe they have anything to do with Claribels.

If you plough through all the rubbish they have put on the internet they are also using your Diamond Logo on a company called DiamondBristol which with you operating in Bristol is a bit close to home

I find this a little incredible:

QuoteRhys Hand

Regional Managing Director

Aged 18, has operational responsibility for the business of the group. He has been employed in the transport industry all of his working life and has been working for transport businesses since 2007. He previously worked for various businesses such as National Express, Rotala Plc & Western Greyhound.

A director aged 18? And working for transport businesses since he was 12?  ::)

Stu,

I believe he is older than 18.

He told me he worked for National Express in London Victoria for the summer just gone.  I am not sure what position he held for Western Greyhound. 



Simon 

Stu

Quote from: Tony on November 12, 2013, 08:24:43 AM
They are claiming to have taken Claribels over on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/cityfoxtraining?ref=stream
(The photo of YJ12HJD) has been stolen from my website and Claribels have always contacted me if they want to use one so don't believe they have anything to do with Claribels.


I looked at that Facebook page, and it looks bogus to me. I might report it.

QuoteDelays on the 71E - police have closed Dansbury Avenue, buses are diverted round Snuff Square until further notice. Delays of up to 10 mins. Sorry

What?


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Tony

Quote from: Simon Dunn on November 12, 2013, 06:28:28 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 12, 2013, 06:23:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 12, 2013, 08:24:43 AM
Hi again Simon

Do you know anything about these clowns
http://cityfoxgroup.com/board-of-directors/4573019338

2nd director claims to have worked for you, along with almost everyone else in 6 years!

They are claiming to have taken Claribels over on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/cityfoxtraining?ref=stream
(The photo of YJ12HJD) has been stolen from my website and Claribels have always contacted me if they want to use one so don't believe they have anything to do with Claribels.

If you plough through all the rubbish they have put on the internet they are also using your Diamond Logo on a company called DiamondBristol which with you operating in Bristol is a bit close to home

I find this a little incredible:

QuoteRhys Hand

Regional Managing Director

Aged 18, has operational responsibility for the business of the group. He has been employed in the transport industry all of his working life and has been working for transport businesses since 2007. He previously worked for various businesses such as National Express, Rotala Plc & Western Greyhound.

A director aged 18? And working for transport businesses since he was 12?  ::)

Stu,

I believe he is older than 18.

He told me he worked for National Express in London Victoria for the summer just gone.  I am not sure what position he held for Western Greyhound. 



Simon

I have just been told one of those listed has been arrested and bailed in connection the fire at Western Greyhound.

Fantasist & Arsonist?

StourportSam

Quote from: Tony on November 12, 2013, 09:02:24 PM
Quote from: Simon Dunn on November 12, 2013, 06:28:28 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 12, 2013, 06:23:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 12, 2013, 08:24:43 AM
Hi again Simon

Do you know anything about these clowns
http://cityfoxgroup.com/board-of-directors/4573019338

2nd director claims to have worked for you, along with almost everyone else in 6 years!

They are claiming to have taken Claribels over on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/cityfoxtraining?ref=stream
(The photo of YJ12HJD) has been stolen from my website and Claribels have always contacted me if they want to use one so don't believe they have anything to do with Claribels.

If you plough through all the rubbish they have put on the internet they are also using your Diamond Logo on a company called DiamondBristol which with you operating in Bristol is a bit close to home

I find this a little incredible:

QuoteRhys Hand

Regional Managing Director

Aged 18, has operational responsibility for the business of the group. He has been employed in the transport industry all of his working life and has been working for transport businesses since 2007. He previously worked for various businesses such as National Express, Rotala Plc & Western Greyhound.

A director aged 18? And working for transport businesses since he was 12?  ::)

Stu,

I believe he is older than 18.

He told me he worked for National Express in London Victoria for the summer just gone.  I am not sure what position he held for Western Greyhound. 



Simon

I have just been told one of those listed has been arrested and bailed in connection the fire at Western Greyhound.

Fantasist & Arsonist?

This all seems very strange indeed.

Simon Dunn

Quote from: Tony on November 12, 2013, 09:02:24 PM
Quote from: Simon Dunn on November 12, 2013, 06:28:28 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 12, 2013, 06:23:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 12, 2013, 08:24:43 AM
Hi again Simon

Do you know anything about these clowns
http://cityfoxgroup.com/board-of-directors/4573019338

2nd director claims to have worked for you, along with almost everyone else in 6 years!

They are claiming to have taken Claribels over on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/cityfoxtraining?ref=stream
(The photo of YJ12HJD) has been stolen from my website and Claribels have always contacted me if they want to use one so don't believe they have anything to do with Claribels.

If you plough through all the rubbish they have put on the internet they are also using your Diamond Logo on a company called DiamondBristol which with you operating in Bristol is a bit close to home

I find this a little incredible:

QuoteRhys Hand

Regional Managing Director

Aged 18, has operational responsibility for the business of the group. He has been employed in the transport industry all of his working life and has been working for transport businesses since 2007. He previously worked for various businesses such as National Express, Rotala Plc & Western Greyhound.

A director aged 18? And working for transport businesses since he was 12?  ::)

Stu,

I believe he is older than 18.

He told me he worked for National Express in London Victoria for the summer just gone.  I am not sure what position he held for Western Greyhound. 



Simon

I have just been told one of those listed has been arrested and bailed in connection the fire at Western Greyhound.

Fantasist & Arsonist?

Tony,

I have heard that rumour about Mr Bearman.  This incident happened after he had left our employment, I am not sure if it is true.



Simon

Tony

Quote from: Simon Dunn on November 13, 2013, 08:25:00 AM
Quote from: Tony on November 12, 2013, 09:02:24 PM
Quote from: Simon Dunn on November 12, 2013, 06:28:28 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 12, 2013, 06:23:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 12, 2013, 08:24:43 AM
Hi again Simon

Do you know anything about these clowns
http://cityfoxgroup.com/board-of-directors/4573019338

2nd director claims to have worked for you, along with almost everyone else in 6 years!

They are claiming to have taken Claribels over on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/cityfoxtraining?ref=stream
(The photo of YJ12HJD) has been stolen from my website and Claribels have always contacted me if they want to use one so don't believe they have anything to do with Claribels.

If you plough through all the rubbish they have put on the internet they are also using your Diamond Logo on a company called DiamondBristol which with you operating in Bristol is a bit close to home

I find this a little incredible:

QuoteRhys Hand

Regional Managing Director

Aged 18, has operational responsibility for the business of the group. He has been employed in the transport industry all of his working life and has been working for transport businesses since 2007. He previously worked for various businesses such as National Express, Rotala Plc & Western Greyhound.

A director aged 18? And working for transport businesses since he was 12?  ::)

Stu,

I believe he is older than 18.

He told me he worked for National Express in London Victoria for the summer just gone.  I am not sure what position he held for Western Greyhound. 



Simon

I have just been told one of those listed has been arrested and bailed in connection the fire at Western Greyhound.

Fantasist & Arsonist?

Tony,

I have heard that rumour about Mr Bearman.  This incident happened after he had left our employment, I am not sure if it is true.



Simon

Well it is two people from Bristol, which is where this bogus website is based that were arrested
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-23424763

Liverpool Street

Quote from: Stu on November 12, 2013, 07:03:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 12, 2013, 08:24:43 AM
They are claiming to have taken Claribels over on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/cityfoxtraining?ref=stream
(The photo of YJ12HJD) has been stolen from my website and Claribels have always contacted me if they want to use one so don't believe they have anything to do with Claribels.


I looked at that Facebook page, and it looks bogus to me. I might report it.

QuoteDelays on the 71E - police have closed Dansbury Avenue, buses are diverted round Snuff Square until further notice. Delays of up to 10 mins. Sorry

What?




That Facebook link takes me to Claribels? What the hell is CityFocks? Is that real? I've never heard of that before. I've heard of Rhys though...
Quote from: 2900
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
Quote from: karl724223
until it cought fire

Diamond Geezer

Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 14, 2013, 04:41:10 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 12, 2013, 07:03:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 12, 2013, 08:24:43 AM
They are claiming to have taken Claribels over on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/cityfoxtraining?ref=stream
(The photo of YJ12HJD) has been stolen from my website and Claribels have always contacted me if they want to use one so don't believe they have anything to do with Claribels.


I looked at that Facebook page, and it looks bogus to me. I might report it.

QuoteDelays on the 71E - police have closed Dansbury Avenue, buses are diverted round Snuff Square until further notice. Delays of up to 10 mins. Sorry

What?




That Facebook link takes me to Claribels? What the hell is CityFocks? Is that real? I've never heard of that before. I've heard of Rhys though...

It would appear they are copying/stealing/borrowing (delete as applicable) images and text from the yourbus website too - how flattering.

winston

#429
Quote from: Simon Dunn on October 31, 2013, 05:39:01 PM

Dear Sir

They are worth £18k, maybe a little more.

Simon,

Would those 4 E300's then be of interest to Rotala given that they are being advertised at an attractive price? Although 9 years old, they could boost the numbers of full size single deckers at Redditch in the interim or may also be useful for KR on the X3 or 292?

Winston,

We would have acquired them had they not already had been sold.

Simon

Looks as though it was GHA Coaches that beat you to the 4 x E300's

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gha-group-photos/10835922356/in/photostream/

Tony

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Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 15, 2013, 09:28:50 PM
Stu - Simon @ Rotala has confirmed he's worked for them. He's older then 18 which he believes, and he was only a cleaner for the summer.

Interestingly on his facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/rhyshand37?fref=ts
he claims to have been at Rotala's Avonmouth depot at 3am in the morning. Be careful Simon we don't want another Western Greyhound!

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2013, 09:33:51 PM
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Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 15, 2013, 09:28:50 PM
Stu - Simon @ Rotala has confirmed he's worked for them. He's older then 18 which he believes, and he was only a cleaner for the summer.

Interestingly on his facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/rhyshand37?fref=ts
he claims to have been at Rotala's Avonmouth depot at 3am in the morning. Be careful Simon we don't want another Western Greyhound!

it not his only facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/rhys.hand.56
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

Liverpool Street

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 15, 2013, 10:52:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2013, 09:33:51 PM
d
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 15, 2013, 09:28:50 PM
Stu - Simon @ Rotala has confirmed he's worked for them. He's older then 18 which he believes, and he was only a cleaner for the summer.

Interestingly on his facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/rhyshand37?fref=ts
he claims to have been at Rotala's Avonmouth depot at 3am in the morning. Be careful Simon we don't want another Western Greyhound!

it not his only facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/rhys.hand.56

Is it against Facebook rules to have multiple accounts?
Quote from: 2900
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
Quote from: karl724223
until it cought fire

Simon Dunn

Quote from: Winston on November 14, 2013, 10:05:19 PM
Quote from: Simon Dunn on October 31, 2013, 05:39:01 PM

Dear Sir

They are worth £18k, maybe a little more.

Simon,

Would those 4 E300's then be of interest to Rotala given that they are being advertised at an attractive price? Although 9 years old, they could boost the numbers of full size single deckers at Redditch in the interim or may also be useful for KR on the X3 or 292?

Winston,

We would have acquired them had they not already had been sold.

Simon

Looks as though it was GHA Coaches that beat you to the 4 x E300's

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gha-group-photos/10835922356/in/photostream/

Winston,

Yes it does.  They got a good deal.


Simon

vinh1000

Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 15, 2013, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 15, 2013, 10:52:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2013, 09:33:51 PM
d
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 15, 2013, 09:28:50 PM
Stu - Simon @ Rotala has confirmed he's worked for them. He's older then 18 which he believes, and he was only a cleaner for the summer.

Interestingly on his facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/rhyshand37?fref=ts
he claims to have been at Rotala's Avonmouth depot at 3am in the morning. Be careful Simon we don't want another Western Greyhound!

it not his only facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/rhys.hand.56

Is it against Facebook rules to have multiple accounts?
No

You seen his latest post about sewing a little forum lol?

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