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Average ages, 22/07/2013.

Started by uniquicity, July 22, 2013, 10:28:35 PM

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winston

Thanks for posting that Pete  ;)

WB's position on the leader board is of no great surprise & nearly half of YW's fleet is made up of 52 plate Tridents now 11 yrs old plus a small quantity of elderly B10L with no sign of replacement yet.

Gareth

A very respectable average fleet age. I remember when WMT were striving for a 12year average fleet age!

winston

Quote from: Gareth on July 22, 2013, 11:25:17 PM
A very respectable average fleet age. I remember when WMT were striving for a 12year average fleet age!

I would think the overall average will fall much further over the course of the next two years once all B6LE, B10L, Solo & the matority of Mercs plus Spectras are gone

JackC

Is the target average age for the entire fleet 9 years old? Sure I've heard that somewhere?

winston

Quote from: JackC on July 22, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
Is the target average age for the entire fleet 9 years old? Sure I've heard that somewhere?

I think the target may been announced in NX Group results, I should imagine with the current annual investment levels, that target may well have been reduced further. I seam to remember the former NXWM MD Dave Kaye wanted all the vehicles operating on main corridors to be max 4yrs old. This was at the time when the first agreement with Centro wad signed in 2011

Westy

Quote from: Winston on July 22, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: JackC on July 22, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
Is the target average age for the entire fleet 9 years old? Sure I've heard that somewhere?

I think the target may been announced in NX Group results, I should imagine with the current annual investment levels, that target may well have been reduced further. I seam to remember the former NXWM MD Dave Kaye wanted all the vehicles operating on main corridors to be max 4yrs old. This was at the time when the first agreement with Centro wad signed in 2011

Walsall newest vehicles, apart from the recent DD's, are the Scanias arent they, so that wouldnt work!

winston

Quote from: Westy on July 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Winston on July 22, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: JackC on July 22, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
Is the target average age for the entire fleet 9 years old? Sure I've heard that somewhere?

I think the target may been announced in NX Group results, I should imagine with the current annual investment levels, that target may well have been reduced further. I seam to remember the former NXWM MD Dave Kaye wanted all the vehicles operating on main corridors to be max 4yrs old. This was at the time when the first agreement with Centro wad signed in 2011

Walsall newest vehicles, apart from the recent DD's, are the Scanias arent they, so that wouldnt work!

1. David Kaye left to be replaced by Peter Coates
2. Know one said it would happen overnight, that was what he wanted to achieve

6013

Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2013, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Winston on July 22, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: JackC on July 22, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
Is the target average age for the entire fleet 9 years old? Sure I've heard that somewhere?

I think the target may been announced in NX Group results, I should imagine with the current annual investment levels, that target may well have been reduced further. I seam to remember the former NXWM MD Dave Kaye wanted all the vehicles operating on main corridors to be max 4yrs old. This was at the time when the first agreement with Centro wad signed in 2011

Walsall newest vehicles, apart from the recent DD's, are the Scanias arent they, so that wouldnt work!

1. David Kaye left to be replaced by Peter Coates
2. Know one said it would happen overnight, that was what he wanted to achieve
David Kaye is bad manager and been sacked in i think 2009.
I'm dislike double decker! I love a bendy buses!

Don't ask to me about Double Decker and only talk me for Single Decker and Bendy buses.

6004 T604 MOA .... 6005 T605 MOA ... 6008 T608 MOA .... 6013 BJ03 ESN ....

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: 6013 on July 23, 2013, 09:31:32 AM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2013, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Winston on July 22, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: JackC on July 22, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
Is the target average age for the entire fleet 9 years old? Sure I've heard that somewhere?

I think the target may been announced in NX Group results, I should imagine with the current annual investment levels, that target may well have been reduced further. I seam to remember the former NXWM MD Dave Kaye wanted all the vehicles operating on main corridors to be max 4yrs old. This was at the time when the first agreement with Centro wad signed in 2011

Walsall newest vehicles, apart from the recent DD's, are the Scanias arent they, so that wouldnt work!

1. David Kaye left to be replaced by Peter Coates
2. Know one said it would happen overnight, that was what he wanted to achieve
David Kaye is bad manager and been sacked in i think 2009.

Have to challenge you there 6013, have you ever met David Kaye, you can't say someone is a bad manager without meeting the,.
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

6013

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 23, 2013, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: 6013 on July 23, 2013, 09:31:32 AM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2013, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Winston on July 22, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: JackC on July 22, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
Is the target average age for the entire fleet 9 years old? Sure I've heard that somewhere?

I think the target may been announced in NX Group results, I should imagine with the current annual investment levels, that target may well have been reduced further. I seam to remember the former NXWM MD Dave Kaye wanted all the vehicles operating on main corridors to be max 4yrs old. This was at the time when the first agreement with Centro wad signed in 2011

Walsall newest vehicles, apart from the recent DD's, are the Scanias arent they, so that wouldnt work!

1. David Kaye left to be replaced by Peter Coates
2. Know one said it would happen overnight, that was what he wanted to achieve
David Kaye is bad manager and been sacked in i think 2009.

Have to challenge you there 6013, have you ever met David Kaye, you can't say someone is a bad manager without meeting the,.
Think!!! You really need reading a news! See link for more information about Dave Kaye- http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/national-express-west-midlands-bus-3040829
I'm dislike double decker! I love a bendy buses!

Don't ask to me about Double Decker and only talk me for Single Decker and Bendy buses.

6004 T604 MOA .... 6005 T605 MOA ... 6008 T608 MOA .... 6013 BJ03 ESN ....

winston

Quote from: 6013 on July 23, 2013, 09:37:03 AM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 23, 2013, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: 6013 on July 23, 2013, 09:31:32 AM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2013, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Winston on July 22, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: JackC on July 22, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
Is the target average age for the entire fleet 9 years old? Sure I've heard that somewhere?

I think the target may been announced in NX Group results, I should imagine with the current annual investment levels, that target may well have been reduced further. I seam to remember the former NXWM MD Dave Kaye wanted all the vehicles operating on main corridors to be max 4yrs old. This was at the time when the first agreement with Centro wad signed in 2011

Walsall newest vehicles, apart from the recent DD's, are the Scanias arent they, so that wouldnt work!

1. David Kaye left to be replaced by Peter Coates
2. Know one said it would happen overnight, that was what he wanted to achieve
David Kaye is bad manager and been sacked in i think 2009.

Have to challenge you there 6013, have you ever met David Kaye, you can't say someone is a bad manager without meeting the,.
Think!!! You really need reading a news! See link for more information about Dave Kaye- http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/national-express-west-midlands-bus-3040829

Nothing wrong with that article to suggest the finger can be pointed at David Kaye, no business wants to keep workers that don't perform

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: 6013 on July 23, 2013, 09:37:03 AM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 23, 2013, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: 6013 on July 23, 2013, 09:31:32 AM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2013, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Winston on July 22, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: JackC on July 22, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
Is the target average age for the entire fleet 9 years old? Sure I've heard that somewhere?

I think the target may been announced in NX Group results, I should imagine with the current annual investment levels, that target may well have been reduced further. I seam to remember the former NXWM MD Dave Kaye wanted all the vehicles operating on main corridors to be max 4yrs old. This was at the time when the first agreement with Centro wad signed in 2011

Walsall newest vehicles, apart from the recent DD's, are the Scanias arent they, so that wouldnt work!

1. David Kaye left to be replaced by Peter Coates
2. Know one said it would happen overnight, that was what he wanted to achieve
David Kaye is bad manager and been sacked in i think 2009.

Have to challenge you there 6013, have you ever met David Kaye, you can't say someone is a bad manager without meeting the,.
Think!!! You really need reading a news! See link for more information about Dave Kaye- http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/national-express-west-midlands-bus-3040829

But the article says nothing bad about David Kaye, it just says that if the drivers under perform they are sacked and that some routes had to be withdraen because they were not being used.

That can happen in any business.
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

winston

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 23, 2013, 09:49:40 AM
Quote from: 6013 on July 23, 2013, 09:37:03 AM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 23, 2013, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: 6013 on July 23, 2013, 09:31:32 AM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2013, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 23, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Winston on July 22, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: JackC on July 22, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
Is the target average age for the entire fleet 9 years old? Sure I've heard that somewhere?

I think the target may been announced in NX Group results, I should imagine with the current annual investment levels, that target may well have been reduced further. I seam to remember the former NXWM MD Dave Kaye wanted all the vehicles operating on main corridors to be max 4yrs old. This was at the time when the first agreement with Centro wad signed in 2011

Walsall newest vehicles, apart from the recent DD's, are the Scanias arent they, so that wouldnt work!

1. David Kaye left to be replaced by Peter Coates
2. Know one said it would happen overnight, that was what he wanted to achieve
David Kaye is bad manager and been sacked in i think 2009.

Have to challenge you there 6013, have you ever met David Kaye, you can't say someone is a bad manager without meeting the,.
Think!!! You really need reading a news! See link for more information about Dave Kaye- http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/national-express-west-midlands-bus-3040829

But the article says nothing bad about David Kaye, it just says that if the drivers under perform they are sacked and that some routes had to be withdraen because they were not being used.

That can happen in any business.

Exactly Stu, commercial decisions to improve profitability that would be taken be any management. A bad manager would be one that ignores routes that underperform & allows poor quality workers to retain their jobs

Dylan4579

my local depots in the top 3. Nice
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