Fall in passenger journey's in WM

[winston]

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2013/06/19/bus-journeys-drop-by-4-million-in-12-months-in-west-midlands/

[Westy]

Must admit my bus journeys have cut down, since my job relocated as I have lifts most of the time now.

[Stu]

Must admit my bus journeys have cut down, since my job relocated as I have lifts most of the time now.

In a similar vein, before I switched jobs, I worked near Shirley so had to get four buses a day to/from work (37 to/from Solihull, 5/6/76 to/from Cranmore), now I work in Sparkbrook, I only have to catch two, one there and one back (37).

[Liverpool Street]

... now I work in Sparkbrook, ...

How's that working out for you?

You have suprised me, Sir.

But like you've seen on the Bristol Road, when it was going round Corporation Street, every bus had a standing load coming into Brum, but now - yeah it's busy but, still. Deffinate reduction.

[ilovetea4370]

... now I work in Sparkbrook, ...

How's that working out for you?

You have suprised me, Sir.

But like you've seen on the Bristol Road, when it was going round Corporation Street, every bus had a standing load coming into Brum, but now - yeah it's busy but, still. Deffinate reduction.

One thing I don't understand is if the 45, 47, 82 and 87 can all be re-routed back into the heart of the city, surely a key service like the Bristol Road's can fit in somewhere, even if they just followed the 45 loop and stopped at the old 33/51 Albert St stop, it would still be an improvement and help people with connections?

The 35 also seems to be leaving City much much emptier now, although that one I am not complaining about!

[Sh4318]

... now I work in Sparkbrook, ...

How's that working out for you?

You have suprised me, Sir.

But like you've seen on the Bristol Road, when it was going round Corporation Street, every bus had a standing load coming into Brum, but now - yeah it's busy but, still. Deffinate reduction.

One thing I don't understand is if the 45, 47, 82 and 87 can all be re-routed back into the heart of the city, surely a key service like the Bristol Road's can fit in somewhere!

Isn't that what the x64 does?

[ilovetea4370]

... now I work in Sparkbrook, ...

How's that working out for you?

You have suprised me, Sir.

But like you've seen on the Bristol Road, when it was going round Corporation Street, every bus had a standing load coming into Brum, but now - yeah it's busy but, still. Deffinate reduction.

One thing I don't understand is if the 45, 47, 82 and 87 can all be re-routed back into the heart of the city, surely a key service like the Bristol Road's can fit in somewhere!

Isn't that what the x64 does?

If you enjoy waiting half an hour for a bus it does!

[Liverpool Street]

... now I work in Sparkbrook, ...

How's that working out for you?

You have suprised me, Sir.

But like you've seen on the Bristol Road, when it was going round Corporation Street, every bus had a standing load coming into Brum, but now - yeah it's busy but, still. Deffinate reduction.

One thing I don't understand is if the 45, 47, 82 and 87 can all be re-routed back into the heart of the city, surely a key service like the Bristol Road's can fit in somewhere, even if they just followed the 45 loop and stopped at the old 33/51 Albert St stop, it would still be an improvement and help people with connections?

The 35 also seems to be leaving City much much emptier now, although that one I am not complaining about!

Oh no doubt they will change it, again. I think if the BR does go up Carr's lane, they'll say there is too many buses up there as it is. Many pedestrians and buses is a recipe for disaster.

[Sh4318]

... now I work in Sparkbrook, ...

How's that working out for you?

You have suprised me, Sir.

But like you've seen on the Bristol Road, when it was going round Corporation Street, every bus had a standing load coming into Brum, but now - yeah it's busy but, still. Deffinate reduction.

One thing I don't understand is if the 45, 47, 82 and 87 can all be re-routed back into the heart of the city, surely a key service like the Bristol Road's can fit in somewhere, even if they just followed the 45 loop and stopped at the old 33/51 Albert St stop, it would still be an improvement and help people with connections?

The 35 also seems to be leaving City much much emptier now, although that one I am not complaining about!

Oh no doubt they will change it, again. I think if the BR does go up Carr's lane, they'll say there is too many buses up there as it is. Many pedestrians and buses is a recipe for disaster.

There are too many buses but use Carrs Lane now, it's becoming a mini Corporation Street, you get the Aston services, Newtown services, Sparkhill services, not too mention the 45/47, 98/99/x64

[Liverpool Street]

... now I work in Sparkbrook, ...

How's that working out for you?

You have suprised me, Sir.

But like you've seen on the Bristol Road, when it was going round Corporation Street, every bus had a standing load coming into Brum, but now - yeah it's busy but, still. Deffinate reduction.

One thing I don't understand is if the 45, 47, 82 and 87 can all be re-routed back into the heart of the city, surely a key service like the Bristol Road's can fit in somewhere, even if they just followed the 45 loop and stopped at the old 33/51 Albert St stop, it would still be an improvement and help people with connections?

The 35 also seems to be leaving City much much emptier now, although that one I am not complaining about!

Oh no doubt they will change it, again. I think if the BR does go up Carr's lane, they'll say there is too many buses up there as it is. Many pedestrians and buses is a recipe for disaster.

There are too many buses but use Carrs Lane now, it's becoming a mini Corporation Street, you get the Aston services, Newtown services, Sparkhill services, not too mention the 45/47, 98/99/x64

I know mate! All it takes is a 6 to overtake a 37, pull in at an angle and half the city comes to a halt. Either that or get a 47 stopped behind a 45 up the top and that'll fudge everything up as well. Very narrow road for that volume of PCV's.

[andy]

I know mate! All it takes is a 6 to overtake a 37, pull in at an angle and half the city comes to a halt. Either that or get a 47 stopped behind a 45 up the top and that'll fudge everything up as well. Very narrow road for that volume of PCV's.

I said when the initial changes were made that rerouting half the city's buses onto a narrow road with not enough pavement space, too many bus stops, a busy pedestrian crossing and a tight angular turn (just so you could put a tram that only runs on one route in their place) would be a total balls up, and sure enough it is. How have Centro responded? By putting even more buses up there!!

[Tony]

... now I work in Sparkbrook, ...

How's that working out for you?

You have suprised me, Sir.

But like you've seen on the Bristol Road, when it was going round Corporation Street, every bus had a standing load coming into Brum, but now - yeah it's busy but, still. Deffinate reduction.

One thing I don't understand is if the 45, 47, 82 and 87 can all be re-routed back into the heart of the city, surely a key service like the Bristol Road's can fit in somewhere, even if they just followed the 45 loop and stopped at the old 33/51 Albert St stop, it would still be an improvement and help people with connections?

The 35 also seems to be leaving City much much emptier now, although that one I am not complaining about!

Oh no doubt they will change it, again. I think if the BR does go up Carr's lane, they'll say there is too many buses up there as it is. Many pedestrians and buses is a recipe for disaster.

There are too many buses but use Carrs Lane now, it's becoming a mini Corporation Street, you get the Aston services, Newtown services, Sparkhill services, not too mention the 45/47, 98/99/x64

The 'Aston' Services (115/902/4/5/14) don't use Carrs Lane any more, they use Albert Street

[Liverpool Street]

I know mate! All it takes is a 6 to overtake a 37, pull in at an angle and half the city comes to a halt. Either that or get a 47 stopped behind a 45 up the top and that'll fudge everything up as well. Very narrow road for that volume of PCV's.

I said when the initial changes were made that rerouting half the city's buses onto a narrow road with not enough pavement space, too many bus stops, a busy pedestrian crossing and a tight angular turn (just so you could put a tram that only runs on one route in their place) would be a total balls up, and sure enough it is. How have Centro responded? By putting even more buses up there!!

I know, it's disgusting. There must be some other way for them to go through the city.

Do all services bar Colmore Row services, use Moor Street Queensway and/or Digbeth - in some way shape or form?

[John]

Do all services bar Colmore Row services, use Moor Street Queensway and/or Digbeth - in some way shape or form?

The 74/75 does not. Turns around Old Square

[Liverpool Street]

Do all services bar Colmore Row services, use Moor Street Queensway and/or Digbeth - in some way shape or form?

The 74/75 does not. Turns around Old Square

Phew, when I saw your reply I thought someone was going to be clever and say "The 11C doesn't".

Ah, forgot about those services. Still seems like a serious amount of services on small roads. Hm, I guess Tony was right about having a bus station. It take the whole size of Digbeth haha.