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Started by raymondthebest, February 18, 2013, 07:31:21 PM

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Sh4318

I was hoping that the new Enviros would be sticking to the 900/957  :-\
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
Local Routes: 21, 89, 48/A, 12/A, 54/A
Semi-local routes: 80, 87

nitromatt1

Quote from: Shaun on June 28, 2013, 03:07:18 PM
I was hoping that the new Enviros would be sticking to the 900/957  :-\

Would be nice to see them on the 22/23 alongside Hybrids

Liverpool Street

Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 28, 2013, 03:01:21 PM
Quote from: Mike K on June 28, 2013, 02:58:31 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 28, 2013, 02:36:07 PM
Has there ever been a decker on the 99 or 636?

I know there was a B7RLE on the 99 not too long ago, wish I'd seen or ridden it

I've never seen a decker. Before the E200s were introduced, there were plenty of B7RLEs including 3 in one day once, and before that Omnilinks, and further back still, Mercs on loan from BY. I think as Mr Rat has stated it's the trees on Wheeleys Road that prevent deckers being used - they are far too low hanging.

Of course, if the 99 was operated by PL garage, deckers would be commonplace...

If the council cut back the trees in Wheeleys Road and Leech Green Lane then deckers can go on the GP. No other issues spring to mind.

Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 28, 2013, 03:12:22 PM
Quote from: Shaun on June 28, 2013, 03:07:18 PM
I was hoping that the new Enviros would be sticking to the 900/957  :-\

Would be nice to see them on the 22/23 alongside Hybrids

Would be nice to see them on all roads lol, dont be so selfish haha. ;D (I'm only going to enjoy them for a few months, retiring soon  8) )
Quote from: 2900
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
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until it cought fire

the trainbasher

I'm sure I read somewhere that a metro did either the 626 or 636 several years ago


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winston

Quote from: JIM H on June 28, 2013, 02:10:12 PM
4897/4901/4902 on the 957 today. 4909/912/913 + 2 others at Miller Street.

I expect the other two were more than likely 4910 & 4911,

Any idea what they were having done at Miller St?

JB93

Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: JB93 on June 28, 2013, 02:20:55 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 02:02:21 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 28, 2013, 01:55:47 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 01:54:23 PM
It has been confirmed that once all drivers get type training, of a Sunday the Enviros will see work on all roads. (Very similar of what they did with the Metros when the Tridents were new)

All roads? :o

Well obviously not the 98/99 and single deck routes lol but yes. All decker routes.

Would love to see an Enviro trying to squeeze round the 58 and 99 routes :P

The 58 hasn't any height issues, just the peoples houses didn't want double deckers looking through there upstairs windows. Maybe dont want to be caught flogging the bishop or what ever. We've had deckers round here for donkeys years with no nets upstairs. I dont see the issue.

Every time I've been on it it's been a very tight squeeze round some areas of Lyndon and Olton though, especially near that cemetery by Gilbertstone Ave. - I guess a decker COULD get round there, but it would take some maneuvering

Mike K

Quote from: JB93 on June 29, 2013, 04:16:24 AM
Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: JB93 on June 28, 2013, 02:20:55 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 02:02:21 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 28, 2013, 01:55:47 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 01:54:23 PM
It has been confirmed that once all drivers get type training, of a Sunday the Enviros will see work on all roads. (Very similar of what they did with the Metros when the Tridents were new)

All roads? :o

Well obviously not the 98/99 and single deck routes lol but yes. All decker routes.

Would love to see an Enviro trying to squeeze round the 58 and 99 routes :P

The 58 hasn't any height issues, just the peoples houses didn't want double deckers looking through there upstairs windows. Maybe dont want to be caught flogging the bishop or what ever. We've had deckers round here for donkeys years with no nets upstairs. I dont see the issue.

Every time I've been on it it's been a very tight squeeze round some areas of Lyndon and Olton though, especially near that cemetery by Gilbertstone Ave. - I guess a decker COULD get round there, but it would take some maneuvering

In terms of length, width, wheelbase etc is a Trident for example any bigger than a B7RLE - I'd have thought not so should be no more difficult in terms of manoeuverability?

nitromatt1

Quote from: Mike K on June 29, 2013, 07:29:52 AM
Quote from: JB93 on June 29, 2013, 04:16:24 AM
Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: JB93 on June 28, 2013, 02:20:55 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 02:02:21 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 28, 2013, 01:55:47 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 01:54:23 PM
It has been confirmed that once all drivers get type training, of a Sunday the Enviros will see work on all roads. (Very similar of what they did with the Metros when the Tridents were new)

All roads? :o

Well obviously not the 98/99 and single deck routes lol but yes. All decker routes.

Would love to see an Enviro trying to squeeze round the 58 and 99 routes :P

The 58 hasn't any height issues, just the peoples houses didn't want double deckers looking through there upstairs windows. Maybe dont want to be caught flogging the bishop or what ever. We've had deckers round here for donkeys years with no nets upstairs. I dont see the issue.

Every time I've been on it it's been a very tight squeeze round some areas of Lyndon and Olton though, especially near that cemetery by Gilbertstone Ave. - I guess a decker COULD get round there, but it would take some maneuvering

In terms of length, width, wheelbase etc is a Trident for example any bigger than a B7RLE - I'd have thought not so should be no more difficult in terms of manoeuverability?

Pretty sure Tridents are shorter than B7RLEs? I doubt they're any wider too

winston

Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 29, 2013, 09:16:04 AM
Quote from: Mike K on June 29, 2013, 07:29:52 AM
Quote from: JB93 on June 29, 2013, 04:16:24 AM
Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: JB93 on June 28, 2013, 02:20:55 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 02:02:21 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 28, 2013, 01:55:47 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 01:54:23 PM
It has been confirmed that once all drivers get type training, of a Sunday the Enviros will see work on all roads. (Very similar of what they did with the Metros when the Tridents were new)

All roads? :o

Well obviously not the 98/99 and single deck routes lol but yes. All decker routes.

Would love to see an Enviro trying to squeeze round the 58 and 99 routes :P

The 58 hasn't any height issues, just the peoples houses didn't want double deckers looking through there upstairs windows. Maybe dont want to be caught flogging the bishop or what ever. We've had deckers round here for donkeys years with no nets upstairs. I dont see the issue.

Every time I've been on it it's been a very tight squeeze round some areas of Lyndon and Olton though, especially near that cemetery by Gilbertstone Ave. - I guess a decker COULD get round there, but it would take some maneuvering

In terms of length, width, wheelbase etc is a Trident for example any bigger than a B7RLE - I'd have thought not so should be no more difficult in terms of manoeuverability?

Pretty sure Tridents are shorter than B7RLEs? I doubt they're any wider too

Double Deckers are typically around 10.6M up to 11.3M long whilst full size single deckers are 12M

Liverpool Street

Tridents are 10.3 (Or was it 10.6) Metres long and 2.5m wide, B7RLE is 12.06M long and 2.5m Wide. I would prefer a decker on the 58 any day of the week. Or a E200 as they're the same length or so I'm told.
Quote from: 2900
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
Quote from: karl724223
until it cought fire

winston

Quote from: The Rat on June 29, 2013, 12:49:07 PM
Tridents are 10.3 (Or was it 10.6) Metres long and 2.5m wide, B7RLE is 12.06M long and 2.5m Wide. I would prefer a decker on the 58 any day of the week. Or a E200 as they're the same length or so I'm told.

I think the NXWM Tridents are 10.6M long, that was the most popular length option

Liverpool Street

Quote from: Winston on June 29, 2013, 01:32:24 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 29, 2013, 12:49:07 PM
Tridents are 10.3 (Or was it 10.6) Metres long and 2.5m wide, B7RLE is 12.06M long and 2.5m Wide. I would prefer a decker on the 58 any day of the week. Or a E200 as they're the same length or so I'm told.

I think the NXWM Tridents are 10.6M long, that was the most popular length option

Makes sense as the Metros were 9.7 and the tridents are roughly 1metre longer.
Quote from: 2900
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
Quote from: karl724223
until it cought fire

JackC

I take it the birds around Miller Street have taken a dislike to 4909 and 4910, judging by the photos on the main site  ::)

Liverpool Street

Quote from: JackC on June 30, 2013, 05:48:27 PM
I take it the birds around Miller Street have taken a dislike to 4909 and 4910, judging by the photos on the main site  ::)

Hahaha, you beat me to this comment!! They've been machine gunned with cack!
Quote from: 2900
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
Quote from: karl724223
until it cought fire

winston

Quote from: JackC on June 30, 2013, 05:48:27 PM
I take it the birds around Miller Street have taken a dislike to 4909 and 4910, judging by the photos on the main site  ::)

I noticed that, seems its home to big seagulls.....

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