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[DavieDD2]

@2900 : Well send them up then, Falkirk is a lot closer to Dundee than Brum for getting them sorted. 4053, 4056 and 4113 have now joined the ever increasing scrap pile of Presidents up here.

[ChrisF7165]

Dundee had a decent batch of new B7RLE's in 2011, another 6 in 2012 & the 9 x E400H in 2013. It's just been 2014 & 2015 where little or nothing has been delivered new, it's Dundee's double decker fleet that is getting pretty old & in need of new investment

The 2011/2 batch of B7RLE's decent? Have u tried travelling on them fully loaded at peak time??  Or at all? Or spoke to the steering wheel attendants who are subjected to them? Even the Omnilumps were better, although I'm not sure the Scania dealer in Dundee would agree.

The 9 ADL E40H's were obtained through the Scottish equuvilant of the green bus fund

[winston]

The 2011/2 batch of B7RLE's decent? Have u tried travelling on them fully loaded at peak time??  Or at all? Or spoke to the steering wheel attendants who are subjected to them? Even the Omnilumps were better, although I'm not sure the Scania dealer in Dundee would agree.

The 9 ADL E40H's were obtained through the Scottish equuvilant of the green bus fund

A 'decent' sized batch of new single deckers! The B7RLE's are set-up for optimum fuel consumption not performance, there was not a much better combination of full size single decker on the market at the time other than the Volvo/Wright combination, Citaro's never sold for fleet orders.

The Scottish Green Bus fund as per the English pays for the cost difference between hybrid & conventional diesel powered double deckers only, so I fail to see your point

[Mike K]

We have a large number of them in the West Midlands and whilst not being able to comment from a driver's perspective, yes, they are geared up like the newer E400s for optimal efficiency and aren't therefore the quickest off the mark, but they're smooth, quiet and have better legroom than the Scanias. I can't see the problem with them myself. Be thankful you don't have the old model E200s up there. Now they are crap.

[Tony]

@2900 : Well send them up then, Falkirk is a lot closer to Dundee than Brum for getting them sorted. 4053, 4056 and 4113 have now joined the ever increasing scrap pile of Presidents up here.

4053 is a beautiful bus to drive

[DavieDD2]

@Mike K  We have 4 of the older E200's, 731 - 734. As for the B7RLE's, I have to say that from a passenger's point of view, they are better than the Omnilinks or E300's to travel on, the suspension on the Volvo chassis seems to cope a lot better with potholes and uneven surfaces than the other 2, the Scanias seem to have a bit more umph to them but you could feel every bump in the road, as for the E300's, I had the misfortune to cross the Forth Bridge on one earlier this year, never again, I've never been so glad to get off a bus in my life! so if NX stick with the Volvo/Wright combo for their singles I for one will be happy about that.

[Mike K]

Oops, my bad @DavieDD2. I didn't realise they'd inflicted them on you too.

[DavieDD2]

Our 4 E200's are SN11 plates and were bought second hand from newbury and district to replace solos.

[JIM C]

nearly all the drivers here would love thre return of the scanias,they were far better to drive,but as tony said there is no dealership here for back-up the maintenance .

[Cammy7153]

nearly all the drivers here would love thre return of the scanias,they were far better to drive,but as tony said there is no dealership here for back-up the maintenance .

I'm not a driver but would love them back as a passenger, very smooth ride!

7176 and 7179 withdrawn

3 remaining B10BLEs left will be withdrawn by the end of this week...7166, 7167 and 7173.

[Demonstrator4698]

I've heard that some Plaxton Presidents are being sent to Dundee. Is this true ?

[Tony]

I've heard that some Plaxton Presidents are being sent to Dundee. Is this true ?

I took three up  a couple of weeks ago!

[Cammy7153]

7166 is the only one that now remains, well worth for preservation I think..

[busboy31]

4682 never had advert frames.

[2206]

Some of the Volvo B10Bs are for sale on Drew Wilsons website.
http://www.drewwilson.co.uk/listings/1999-volvo-b10b-wrights-body/