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[Bob]

Is the 9 not doing very well then? Anyone know how the new 310 is faring?  I caught it last week it had a couple of passengers between merry hill and dudley and nobody got on at the bus stn. The two buses I saw on it werent tge branded ones,  I got an unbranded ex london one and the other I saw was a y-ybc. The ex london wasnt too bad was smart inside

[notepanel]

Is the 9 not doing very well then? Anyone know how the new 310 is faring?  I caught it last week it had a couple of passengers between merry hill and dudley and nobody got on at the bus stn. The two buses I saw on it werent tge branded ones,  I got an unbranded ex london one and the other I saw was a y-ybc. The ex london wasnt too bad was smart inside

I must admit to not knowing the answer to either, but 'Sharon Moor' seems to be extremely pro-Sandwell Travel. The only reason they've posted/joined the forum is to big up Sandwell Travel and put down competitors...

She is just a normal customer however, supporting the bus company on an enthusiasts site as so many customers do.

[John]

Red / WD / MPD with cab dismantled on back of lorry in Cannock today REG ?

That may be the one that crashed into the garden somewhere in Walsall. Can not remember the fleetnumber/regristation, but do remember seeing a pic on Flickr of the same bus involved in that accident of it in Wednesfield garage with no front end

[arrivaaston]

Could be 2122 W895AGA as that was in Cannocks yard with no front

[tphi12000]

Has anyone seen 4804 in service recently as it's the only alx that I've not seen on the A2/3 services ?

[arrivaaston]

4804 has been parked at Wednesfield for ages minus a steering wheel not sure is she's withdrawn or having work done its been atleast 2 months

[Ck]

Is there a staffing issue at wednesfield as most of the Cannock fleet are advertising for drivers

[Westy]

Seeing the dedicated 19 thread has vanished,  I'll post here instead.

Who does Arriva's doorstep distribution as Ive got a 19 promotional leaflet with coupons on.

Drawback is, I live on the 2 / 2a in Leamore, nowhere near  the 19 !

[Bob]

Seeing the dedicated 19 thread has vanished,  I'll post here instead.

Who does Arriva's doorstep distribution as Ive got a 19 promotional leaflet with coupons on.

Drawback is, I live on the 2 / 2a in Leamore, nowhere near  the 19 !

Must be struggling.  This' ll be a last ditch attempt,  they did a similar thing with the x31 with 'buzz off to Birmingham ' cheap fares promotions shortly before they axed it...anyone else think the 19 is doomed and will end up cut back to walsall bloxwich?

[andy]

Seeing the dedicated 19 thread has vanished,  I'll post here instead.

Who does Arriva's doorstep distribution as Ive got a 19 promotional leaflet with coupons on.

Drawback is, I live on the 2 / 2a in Leamore, nowhere near  the 19 !

Probably the same people that delivered promotional leaflets and coupons for the 97.......in Erdington!

Seeing the dedicated 19 thread has vanished,  I'll post here instead.

Who does Arriva's doorstep distribution as Ive got a 19 promotional leaflet with coupons on.

Drawback is, I live on the 2 / 2a in Leamore, nowhere near  the 19 !

Must be struggling.  This' ll be a last ditch attempt,  they did a similar thing with the x31 with 'buzz off to Birmingham ' cheap fares promotions shortly before they axed it...anyone else think the 19 is doomed and will end up cut back to walsall bloxwich?

Arriva are simply learning the hard way that you can't touch NX on a commercial basis in the West Midlands while they are able to run the Travelcard as a loss leader whilst gathering their real income from vast Centro subsidies based on market share and miles operated.

Please use 'Edit Tool'. Cheers, LS

[PM]

Seeing the dedicated 19 thread has vanished,  I'll post here instead.

Who does Arriva's doorstep distribution as Ive got a 19 promotional leaflet with coupons on.

Drawback is, I live on the 2 / 2a in Leamore, nowhere near  the 19 !

Probably the same people that delivered promotional leaflets and coupons for the 97.......in Erdington!

Seems a really bad, expensive way of promotion as go north east worked out some years ago-brand up buses in bright liveries with timetables on the bus like diamond did with the 002. No point spending masses of money on leaflet drops in areas miles away.

Seeing the dedicated 19 thread has vanished,  I'll post here instead.

Who does Arriva's doorstep distribution as Ive got a 19 promotional leaflet with coupons on.

Drawback is, I live on the 2 / 2a in Leamore, nowhere near  the 19 !

Must be struggling.  This' ll be a last ditch attempt,  they did a similar thing with the x31 with 'buzz off to Birmingham ' cheap fares promotions shortly before they axed it...anyone else think the 19 is doomed and will end up cut back to walsall bloxwich?

Arriva are simply learning the hard way that you can't touch NX on a commercial basis in the West Midlands while they are able to run the Travelcard as a loss leader whilst gathering their real income from vast Centro subsidies based on market share and miles operated.

I agree it's hard to compete with NX as rotala have discovered. But arriva seem totally clueless on how to-I'm sorry but old knackered darts and deckers with no real brand identity and no hopers for routes is never going to affect NX. You can tell that with arriva, someone has sat down at a computer who never uses buses and planned out some routes. The people that know how to compete are people who have used or driven buses like Peter Jones and know the ins and outs of how to make money. Indeed, the fact that most of their routes are so long means that profits will be lower as will frequencies for a similar amount of resources. I would have thought it's easier to make money on something like the 401e/4 than massive, long routes...


'Edit Tool' In future. Cheers, LS

[Westy]

Seeing the dedicated 19 thread has vanished,  I'll post here instead.

Who does Arriva's doorstep distribution as Ive got a 19 promotional leaflet with coupons on.

Drawback is, I live on the 2 / 2a in Leamore, nowhere near  the 19 !

Probably the same people that delivered promotional leaflets and coupons for the 97.......in Erdington!

Seems a really bad, expensive way of promotion as go north east worked out some years ago-brand up buses in bright liveries with timetables on the bus like diamond did with the 002. No point spending masses of money on leaflet drops in areas miles away.

Seeing the dedicated 19 thread has vanished,  I'll post here instead.

Who does Arriva's doorstep distribution as Ive got a 19 promotional leaflet with coupons on.

Drawback is, I live on the 2 / 2a in Leamore, nowhere near  the 19 !

Must be struggling.  This' ll be a last ditch attempt,  they did a similar thing with the x31 with 'buzz off to Birmingham ' cheap fares promotions shortly before they axed it...anyone else think the 19 is doomed and will end up cut back to walsall bloxwich?

Arriva are simply learning the hard way that you can't touch NX on a commercial basis in the West Midlands while they are able to run the Travelcard as a loss leader whilst gathering their real income from vast Centro subsidies based on market share and miles operated.

I agree it's hard to compete with NX as rotala have discovered. But arriva seem totally clueless on how to-I'm sorry but old knackered darts and deckers with no real brand identity and no hopers for routes is never going to affect NX. You can tell that with arriva, someone has sat down at a computer who never uses buses and planned out some routes. The people that know how to compete are people who have used or driven buses like Peter Jones and know the ins and outs of how to make money. Indeed, the fact that most of their routes are so long means that profits will be lower as will frequencies for a similar amount of resources. I would have thought it's easier to make money on something like the 401e/4 than massive, long routes...


'Edit Tool' In future. Cheers, LS

With some former local NX people working at Wednesfield ISTR, you'd think they'd know what should & what shouldn't?

(I'd say, have a crack at the 529, but Travel Express  &  Diamond did pretty crap too, but seeing Arriva's depot in Wednesfield would be closer to the route  than Diamond's , dead mileage should not be a problem surely?)

[PM]

I would have thought the routes over there to do would be the 59-diamond did fine on there until it left the bus station.... Then 529 and posssibly a key wolverhampton route like the 1. Also, I think arriva should use the same service numbers as TWM and do direct copies as opposed to messing about with routes. That way, I would have thought some money could be made

[Bob]

They could stick some mpds on the 51 lol