Unusual Workings January 2013

[Trident 4609]

1669 on route 59 (WN)

A B7RLE on route 59 this morning (i couldn't catch the fleetnumber)

[John]

1477 on 935
4137 on 997

[fleetline6477]

WA 4138 on route 89/8

WA route 4 branded 1856 in Darlaston out of service waiting to take up service on 34.

[vinh1000]

813 i believe on the 24 today :)

[Trident 4609]

WA 4138 on route 89/8

WA route 4 branded 1856 in Darlaston out of service waiting to take up service on 34.

Tridents on the 8/89 are usual. There are usually 2 on there with the other buses being B7RLE

[NXWM Spectra]

1669 on route 59 (WN)

A B7RLE on route 59 this morning (i couldn't catch the fleetnumber)

There was 2 on there this morning. Unfortunately, I'm not sure on the fleetnumbers either, but I think 1 was 2014.

[lynx1103]

1477 on 935

With Emisions Zones in Place in Birmingham. Volvo B10L`s are not allowed to Enter City Centre

[PM]

1477 on 935

With Emisions Zones in Place in Birmingham. Volvo B10L`s are not allowed to Enter City Centre

Other companies like diamond shifted a lot of buses around so as they could meet this requirement. NXWM seem to just get away with what they want. Its one rule for one and one for the rest hope they get fined for it

[Sh4318]

1477 on 935

With Emisions Zones in Place in Birmingham. Volvo B10L`s are not allowed to Enter City Centre

B10Ls are euro 2. Euro 2 compliant buses are allowed into the city centre on routes with a frequency of 30 minutes or lower, such as the 935

[richie]

1477 on 935

With Emisions Zones in Place in Birmingham. Volvo B10L`s are not allowed to Enter City Centre

Other companies like diamond shifted a lot of buses around so as they could meet this requirement. NXWM seem to just get away with what they want. Its one rule for one and one for the rest hope they get fined for it

I have just read a centro document online cant post the link or don't know how to via iPad it says that all buses that run at more than a half hourly frequency must be euro3 min and all other services must be euro 2 and it states that date as euro 2 is vehicles from oct 1996 so on a 140 or 141 service say a merc with pull out ramp could be used. It states that buses must have pull out ramps ie in the platform. Operators failing this will result in periodic fines and details but forward to traffic commissioner. If you search Birmingham euro 3 emissions on google its a PDF about 3 from top

[wilmotm (Matt Wilmot)]

Well the B10's haven't got pull out ramps, so that would be an area they could be pulled up on though to be honest the system seems very complicated with various loopholes and clauses so I doubt that any fines will probably be ever issued!

[PM]

1477 on 935

With Emisions Zones in Place in Birmingham. Volvo B10L`s are not allowed to Enter City Centre

B10Ls are euro 2. Euro 2 compliant buses are allowed into the city centre on routes with a frequency of 30 minutes or lower, such as the 935

I take back what I said-sorry I thought the 935 was more frequent than that. Hands up-I didnt check-sorry! Tho i think the whole system is flawed

[richie]

Well the B10's haven't got pull out ramps, so that would be an area they could be pulled up on though to be honest the system seems very complicated with various loopholes and clauses so I doubt that any fines will probably be ever issued!

Sorry I misread it a portable ramp is good enough so any bus currently operated by nxwm could enter the city on a selection of routes

[Sh4318]

Well the B10's haven't got pull out ramps, so that would be an area they could be pulled up on though to be honest the system seems very complicated with various loopholes and clauses so I doubt that any fines will probably be ever issued!

Nether do early mercs, but they're often used on 83 and 89 routes so probably not

[richie]

What other requirements are there for vehicles?
Operators must ensure that:
from 22nd July 2012
daytime running lights are used at all times
route and destination displays are correctly set, and comply with relevant legal standards
vehicles are well presented, clean internally and externally
vehicles are in an appropriate livery clearly identifying the operator (or route brand) and not in a livery belonging to a previous operator or bear any previous operator's branding or other information
from 22nd July 2013
all vehicles must be fitted with equipment to provide locational data to Centro's Real Time Information System – this equipment must be maintained in working order and correctly configured at the start of each journey made by the vehicle
Vehicles must not be left unattended at a bus stop at any time. Engines must be switched off at a bus stop or bus stand where the vehicle's waiting time exceeds 2 minutes, unless there is an operational requirement for the vehicle to remain switched on.

That's a cut out of the document online, how are NX able to use old branding and fleet names as it says they can't?