Diamond Bus - Discussion

[Dylan4579]

Diamond are every 20 minutes on the 4H whereas NX are every 30

To be fair I was talking about the core west brom to walsall section of the route

Ah ok fair enough, I don't know so much about that part of the route. In fact I have only ever done the Hayley Green - Halesowen part of the route

The 4H does seen to be the most profitible route out of the 3. Would it be a good idea to only do the 4H on sundays because the two busiest parts of the route would then be served

[richie]

Diamond are every 20 minutes on the 4H whereas NX are every 30

To be fair I was talking about the core west brom to walsall section of the route

Ah ok fair enough, I don't know so much about that part of the route. In fact I have only ever done the Hayley Green - Halesowen part of the route

The 4H does seen to be the most profitible route out of the 3. Would it be a good idea to only do the 4H on sundays because the two busiest parts of the route would then be served

The Hasbury part can't be that busy surely

[Ash]

When diamond operated the 404E on a sunday every 15 minutes is was very well used i remember catching several mcv evolutions which operated it at the time and they were absolutely rammed when reaching West Bromwich, they changed it to the 4M operate it every 30 minutes and run it about 10 minutes behind NXWM 4M and guess what it fails, if they reverted back to the 4 every 15 minutes run it 5 minutes before the NXWM bus they would have a success one again. Previously the 404E lasted from 2010-2012 when it changed to the 4M and lasted about 6 months surely this must tell diamond something.

[nitromatt1]

Diamond are every 20 minutes on the 4H whereas NX are every 30

To be fair I was talking about the core west brom to walsall section of the route

Ah ok fair enough, I don't know so much about that part of the route. In fact I have only ever done the Hayley Green - Halesowen part of the route

The 4H does seen to be the most profitible route out of the 3. Would it be a good idea to only do the 4H on sundays because the two busiest parts of the route would then be served

The Hasbury part can't be that busy surely

Busiest part from what I've seen!

[winston]

Diamond are every 20 minutes on the 4H whereas NX are every 30

To be fair I was talking about the core west brom to walsall section of the route

Ah ok fair enough, I don't know so much about that part of the route. In fact I have only ever done the Hayley Green - Halesowen part of the route

The 4H does seen to be the most profitible route out of the 3. Would it be a good idea to only do the 4H on sundays because the two busiest parts of the route would then be served

The Hasbury part can't be that busy surely

Rich,

The Hasbury section can carry reasonable loads, but the majority are normally concessionary only

[nitromatt1]

Diamond are every 20 minutes on the 4H whereas NX are every 30

To be fair I was talking about the core west brom to walsall section of the route

Ah ok fair enough, I don't know so much about that part of the route. In fact I have only ever done the Hayley Green - Halesowen part of the route

The 4H does seen to be the most profitible route out of the 3. Would it be a good idea to only do the 4H on sundays because the two busiest parts of the route would then be served

The Hasbury part can't be that busy surely

Rich,

The Hasbury section can carry reasonable loads, but the majority are normally concessionary only

A large proportion of the population of Hayley Green/Hasbury seem to be elderly people who use the 244, 4H, 142 and 217 (and even my school bus once or twice!) just to hop into town to do their shopping

[winston]

Diamond are every 20 minutes on the 4H whereas NX are every 30

To be fair I was talking about the core west brom to walsall section of the route

Ah ok fair enough, I don't know so much about that part of the route. In fact I have only ever done the Hayley Green - Halesowen part of the route

The 4H does seen to be the most profitible route out of the 3. Would it be a good idea to only do the 4H on sundays because the two busiest parts of the route would then be served

The Hasbury part can't be that busy surely

Rich,

The Hasbury section can carry reasonable loads, but the majority are normally concessionary only

A large proportion of the population of Hayley Green/Hasbury seem to be elderly people who use the 244, 4H, 142 and 217 (and even my school bus once or twice!) just to hop into town to do their shopping

A lot of people who buses from Hasbury are generally OAP's, additionally a lot of elderly people that I know of have passed away with younger people moving in who don't use buses. Hasbury doesn't haven't have anywhere near the choice of routes it once had as a result

[Ash]

Are the your bus presidents at Long acre for sale as i believe they were for part exchange for the 04 reg b7rle's from Wessex so wondered if they will see service within the Rotala group. The presidents would be ideal for the 301 or for use on services such as the 56 or 002 and then repaint the centro's on the 002 and use them on the 4/4H/4M along with the b7rle's currently being used. 

[nitromatt1]

Are the your bus presidents at Long acre for sale as i believe they were for part exchange for the 04 reg b7rle's from Wessex so wondered if they will see service within the Rotala group. The presidents would be ideal for the 301 or for use on services such as the 56 or 002 and then repaint the centro's on the 002 and use them on the 4/4H/4M along with the b7rle's currently being used.

Presidents past my house on the 002, now that would be awesome!

[winston]

Are the your bus presidents at Long acre for sale as i believe they were for part exchange for the 04 reg b7rle's from Wessex so wondered if they will see service within the Rotala group. The presidents would be ideal for the 301 or for use on services such as the 56 or 002 and then repaint the centro's on the 002 and use them on the 4/4H/4M along with the b7rle's currently being used.

The Yourbus Yahoo group suggested that those Presidents were destined for Wessex, surprise, surprise..... but plans may have now changed unless they are being prepared to go at the start of the new term.

They are not listed for sale on the Rotala group disposals, only the 10 ex First Tridents still

[Ash]

Thanks Winston, Yes Wessex seems to get anything decent and the West Midlands seems to suffer apart from the Signature group of services. The 4 service gets 4 brand new b7rle's and 3 ex midland classic ones when the PVR is 15 so you still see cadets and the old red and white darts so if your unlucky you can still get a 15 year old dart or 12 year old cadet.

[winston]

Thanks Winston, Yes Wessex seems to get anything decent and the West Midlands seems to suffer apart from the Signature group of services. The 4 service gets 4 brand new b7rle's and 3 ex midland classic ones when the PVR is 15 so you still see cadets and the old red and white darts so if your unlucky you can still get a 15 year old dart or 12 year old cadet.

Exactly, and still no sign of the other ex Wessex B7RLE either. Diamond just seems to get a token investment these days in new vehicles

[Ash]

Diamond is the biggest business within the Rotala group it may not be the most profitable although I'm not sure about that but the investment especially in full size single deckers is minimal. Decent second hand vehicles would be ideal more 5/6 year old centro's or b7rle's would be great for the 301 and the 4/4H/4M moving the cadets to services such as the 226/40/42/43.

[winston]

Diamond is the biggest business within the Rotala group it may not be the most profitable although I'm not sure about that but the investment especially in full size single deckers is minimal. Decent second hand vehicles would be ideal more 5/6 year old centro's or b7rle's would be great for the 301 and the 4/4H/4M moving the cadets to services such as the 226/40/42/43.

It is the biggest and always has been, you would think that 15 new buses a year for Diamond shouldn't break the bank.....

[Ash]

I was thinking how they have the signature branding for the Solihull group of services it's a shame they couldn't do something similar for the services in West Bromwich may be using the old black country connection branding as they have the 4/4H/4M/19/53/54/A/40/42/43/64/226W to name a few services of which diamond operate that serve West Bromwich.