Diamond Bus - Discussion

[Trident 4194]

It doesn't make sense the Hayley Green end, as Diamond already seem to carry the lion's share of 4H passengers as it was, so they'll just be diluting their own revenue per bus, unless there's something I'm missing i.e. it makes an overall pvr saving overall the combined new route & it's swings & roundabouts etc....

That's what I'm saying winston. Prior to these changes PVR of 4/4H was 14 now. Now it will be 15. It's only an additional bus.

[Tony]

That's what I'm saying winston. Prior to these changes PVR of 4/4H was 14 now. Now it will be 15. It's only an additional bus.

'Only an additional bus'? I presume you don't know how much it costs to operate an 'additional bus'
It is well into 6 figures over a year, so that is an awful lot of extra passengers needed

[winston]

That's what I'm saying winston. Prior to these changes PVR of 4/4H was 14 now. Now it will be 15. It's only an additional bus.

Tony beat me to it, approx £100k per year extra to mostly take passengers off your existing buses, if the competitions buses were heavily loaded, that would be different, but they're not.

[Trident 4194]

Tony beat me to it, approx £100k per year extra to mostly take passengers off your existing buses, if the competitions buses were heavily loaded, that would be different, but they're not.

Who knows they might change the timetable as more buses will be running on the route, therefore have stricter running times. We don't know until everything is released. I'm interested to see the route of the new 44 too.

[winston]

Who knows they might change the timetable as more buses will be running on the route, therefore have stricter running times. We don't know until everything is released. I'm interested to see the route of the new 44 too.

Not checked the 44 route fully, but it should exit Bromsgrove via the 144 route & follow that up to Northfield?, not 100% sure beyond that.

[2206]

Not checked the 44 route fully, but it should exit Bromsgrove via the 144 route & follow that up to Northfield?, not 100% sure beyond that.

via Barnes Hill Asda/California.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/media/2798/44-310520.pdf

(So that is from Northfield along the B4121 to Barnes Hill/California then left at the Island to Clapgate Lane I think)

[winston]

via Barnes Hill Asda/California.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/media/2798/44-310520.pdf

Ta, but doesn't mean a lot to me, don't really know that area.

[Trident 4194]

They took the 4H changes of the diamond website?

[Stu]

They took the 4H changes of the diamond website?

https://www.diamondbuses.com/west-midlands/service-updates/wm-service-changes-may20/

[sonic84]

Not checked the 44 route fully, but it should exit Bromsgrove via the 144 route & follow that up to Northfield?, not 100% sure beyond that.

Looks like the 44 will divert to Great Park and Frankley between Rubery and Northfield unlike the 144.

The route looks to be quite a bit different to the 202

[sonic84]

They took the 4H changes of the diamond website?

The 146 and 303 permanent withdrawal has also been removed too

[Stu]

They took the 4H changes of the diamond website?

https://www.diamondbuses.com/west-midlands/service-updates/wm-service-changes-may20/

Ah I see now, I also notice that it has been changed as it previously stated that all West Midlands services would resume regular timetables from 31st May.

[MasterPlan]

via Barnes Hill Asda/California.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/media/2798/44-310520.pdf

(So that is from Northfield along the B4121 to Barnes Hill/California then left at the Island to Clapgate Lane I think)

Interesting. Will get to Halesowen quicker than the 002 by the looks of that.

Why is it numbered the 44 though. Can't work that out.

[winston]

Interesting. Will get to Halesowen quicker than the 002 by the looks of that.

Why is it numbered the 44 though. Can't work that out.

Because it exits Bromsgrove via the 144 route & mirrors it all the way to Northfield

[Busboy105]

From Sunday 31st May
4   Walsall to West Bromwich   Will continue to be withdrawn and replaced with a NEW 10 minute frequency 4H service between Walsall and Hayley Green via West Bromwich.
4H   Walsall to Hayley Green   Increased to a NEW 10 minute frequency 4H service between Walsall and Hayley Green via West Bromwich.
16   Hamstead to Birmingham   Will be extended to include 16W route. Operating a NEW 10 minute frequency from West Bromwich to Birmingham via Hamstead.
16W   West Bromwich to Birmingham   Will be renumbered & combined with 16, Operating a NEW 10 minute frequency from West Bromwich to Birmingham via Hamstead.
202   Halesowen to Bromsgrove   Will be replaced with NEW 44 route, which will operate hourly Monday to Saturday from Halesowen to Bromsgrove via Quinton, Northfield, Rubery, Lydiate Ash and Princess of Wales Hospital, Bromsgrove.
146   Redditch to Birmingham   Will not be a reinstated service

Are these changes because of the pandemic or are these permament changes?