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Service Changes July 20th 2025

Started by Stu, June 05, 2025, 07:40:45 PM

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Jack D

Quote from: BBS on June 19, 2025, 11:18:21 PMWith the 17 now also being extended to the airport, I think it's time a more southern route also gets an extension to BHX. My best bet is on a 4, serving Stratford road, Acocks green, with an airport link. Maybe then follow the X2 up to wheatsheaf, and X1 way down to BHX.
Will 17A go into Chelmsley or go through back roads of Marston green to bhx?

Mike K

Quote from: BBS on June 19, 2025, 11:18:21 PMWith the 17 now also being extended to the airport, I think it's time a more southern route also gets an extension to BHX. My best bet is on a 4, serving Stratford road, Acocks green, with an airport link. Maybe then follow the X2 up to wheatsheaf, and X1 way down to BHX.
It's been done before, with the 6 being extended from Solihull to the airport via Damsonwood, with alternative buses terminating at Hermitage Road. Didn't last very long though.

BBS

QuoteWill 17A go into Chelmsley or go through back roads of Marston green to bhx?
It's going into Chelmsley wood, the 17 itself is terminating at Chelmsley wood, the 17A will carry on from there. Most likley either a new way or just the casual 96 way

The Transport Youtuber

Quote from: BBS on June 19, 2025, 11:18:21 PMWith the 17 now also being extended to the airport, I think it's time a more southern route also gets an extension to BHX. My best bet is on a 4, serving Stratford road, Acocks green, with an airport link. Maybe then follow the X2 up to wheatsheaf, and X1 way down to BHX.
doesnt the X12 go a similar way to airport?

72 could possibly be a loop service if it were extended to the airport then replacing the x12 between airport and solihul. just a thought

2206

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Quote from: BBS on June 19, 2025, 11:43:30 PMIt's going into Chelmsley wood, the 17 itself is terminating at Chelmsley wood, the 17A will carry on from there. Most likley either a new way or just the casual 96 way
What way is the 17 going to Chelmsley Moorend Avenue, Bosworth Drive like the old 71 used to, or Chapelhouse Road?

Wonder if the 97A is staying and it's an addition? Or if this is a way of improving the current route to serve more workers at the airport, if so overnight journeys on the 17 would be interesting?
Either way I guess it is subsidised by the Airport?
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BBS

QuoteWhat way is the 17 going to Chelmsley Moorend Avenue, Bosworth Drive like the old 71 used to, or Chapelhouse Road?

Wonder if the 97A is staying and it's an addition? Or if this is a way of improving the current route to serve more workers at the airport?
Either way I guess it is subsidised by the Airport?
Why would the 97A go? That service is going extremely well. The 17A could do another way, it's a single decker route anyways due to green lane 

BBS

Quotedoesnt the X12 go a similar way to airport?

72 could possibly be a loop service if it were extended to the airport then replacing the x12 between airport and solihul. just a thought
The X12 goes via damson wood and JLR. The revised 4 can go via the X2 way ( lode lane ), take a right onto Coventry Road and follow the X1. Maybe reduces the need of the A10, although I wouldn't go that far 

2206

#127
Quote from: BBS on June 19, 2025, 11:54:34 PMWhy would the 97A go? That service is going extremely well. The 17A could do another way, it's a single decker route anyways due to green lane
Just because it'd mean 6bph to Chelmsley which I think is more than that has ever had?

It's single deck because of the radleys bridge not Green Lane. BC still run an 891 school down Green Lane in the morning.
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94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

ellspurs

Quote from: The Transport Youtuber on June 19, 2025, 11:44:18 PMdoesnt the X12 go a similar way to airport?

72 could possibly be a loop service if it were extended to the airport then replacing the x12 between airport and solihul. just a thought
Yea that would remove a connecting service to Solihull for everywhere north of Chelmsley Wood.

Quote from: 2206 on June 19, 2025, 11:47:08 PMWhat way is the 17 going to Chelmsley Moorend Avenue, Bosworth Drive like the old 71 used to, or Chapelhouse Road?

Wonder if the 97A is staying and it's an addition? Or if this is a way of improving the current route to serve more workers at the airport?
Either way I guess it is subsidised by the Airport?
Hopefully if it isn't just replacing the 14, then via the Old Old 71 route, up Coleshill Road and Berwicks Lane, as that is only served by the a10 and there's a large newish housing estate there which currently has quite poor service. Either that or send the bus up to the airport that way, via the old 91/676 route that the a10 no longer covers.

Jack D

Quote from: ellspurs on June 19, 2025, 11:57:16 PMYea that would remove a connecting service to Solihull for everywhere north of Chelmsley Wood.
Hopefully if it isn't just replacing the 14, then via the Old Old 71 route, up Coleshill Road and Berwicks Lane, as that is only served by the a10 and there's a large newish housing estate there which currently has quite poor service. Either that or send the bus up to the airport that way, via the old 91/676 route that the a10 no longer covers.
What you mean replacing the 14?

Steve3229vp

Currently the 17 runs every 9 minutes, I would think the new timetable will be every 10 minutes to Chelmsley and every 20 minutes to Airport

cardew

I wish they'd tweak the times of the overnight journeys to the airport to make it possible to get from South Brum for one of the myriad early flights.

63 arrives city 03:03 
BOTH the X1 and 97A depart City at 03:05

No-ones gonna risk that so taxi is the only option.

Stu

Quote from: Steve3229vp on June 20, 2025, 07:30:39 AMCurrently the 17 runs every 9 minutes, I would think the new timetable will be every 10 minutes to Chelmsley and every 20 minutes to Airport
More likely half-hourly to the airport, I would imagine. Would then depend on how well the service takes off, if you'll excuse the pun lol
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GoldenSquid

Quote from: cardew on June 20, 2025, 07:59:46 AMI wish they'd tweak the times of the overnight journeys to the airport to make it possible to get from South Brum for one of the myriad early flights.

63 arrives city 03:03
BOTH the X1 and 97A depart City at 03:05

No-ones gonna risk that so taxi is the only option.
and with the timings on the 63 twilight, if you are unlucky with traffic lights you are super late. when I did a few weeks ago Friday run I was on time and the Saturday run the bus went slow so ended up getting in 5 minutes late. 

Doesn't help that the X1 also leaves around the same time too, I think thats also xx:05.
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cardew

Quote from: GoldenSquid on June 20, 2025, 11:50:30 AMDoesn't help that the X1 also leaves around the same time too, I think thats also xx:05.
Yes, both airport services leave at xx:05! 

Good to get first hand experience. Small hours Dutch-style flashing amber lights (i.e. treat it as a normal crossroads) or sensors that stop lights changing to red if a bus is approaching would be utopia here. 

I've veered off topic here so apologies.

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