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Service Changes July 20th 2025

Started by Stu, June 05, 2025, 07:40:45 PM

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Stu

Couple of updates have been added to the TfWM Service Changes page:
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/ways-to-travel/buses-in-the-west-midlands/upcoming-bus-service-changes/

Looks like the 46/46A and 169 services are to be withdrawn.

For the 46/46A it just states at present:
"From 20th July, these services will be withdrawn and replaced by services operating a revised route and/or timetable."

It would appear that the 48 is going to be extended further, from Northfield to Frankley, as a result of the 46/46A withdrawal.

The 61 service is also being revised:
"From 20th July, this service will operate a revised route and timetable. It will no longer serve Egghill Lane, Borrowdale Road/Norrington Road, Trescott Road, or Hoggs Lane and instead operate directly via Frankley Beeches Road.

This withdrawn section of the route will now be covered by the revised Service 27"

Service 169:
"From 20th July, this service will be withdrawn and replaced by services operating a revised route and/or timetable."

My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to QE Hospital | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

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frostjay974

The amount of typing errors on that website is unbelievable! For a start, it says that the changes will be happening from June 20th and the withdrawn 48A will apparently be operating a revised route and timetable to cover for the 46/46A and if it not mistaken, the frequency of the 48 is already 20 mins. 

Ingleboro261F

Quote from: Stu on June 05, 2025, 07:40:45 PMCouple of updates have been added to the TfWM Service Changes page:
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/ways-to-travel/buses-in-the-west-midlands/upcoming-bus-service-changes/

Looks like the 46/46A and 169 services are to be withdrawn.

For the 46/46A it just states at present:
"From 20th July, these services will be withdrawn and replaced by services operating a revised route and/or timetable."

It would appear that the 48 is going to be extended further, from Northfield to Frankley, as a result of the 46/46A withdrawal.

The 61 service is also being revised:
"From 20th July, this service will operate a revised route and timetable. It will no longer serve Egghill Lane, Borrowdale Road/Norrington Road, Trescott Road, or Hoggs Lane and instead operate directly via Frankley Beeches Road.

This withdrawn section of the route will now be covered by the revised Service 27"

Service 169:
"From 20th July, this service will be withdrawn and replaced by services operating a revised route and/or timetable."


Quote from: Stu on June 05, 2025, 07:40:45 PMCouple of updates have been added to the TfWM Service Changes page:
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/ways-to-travel/buses-in-the-west-midlands/upcoming-bus-service-changes/

Looks like the 46/46A and 169 services are to be withdrawn.

For the 46/46A it just states at present:
"From 20th July, these services will be withdrawn and replaced by services operating a revised route and/or timetable."

It would appear that the 48 is going to be extended further, from Northfield to Frankley, as a result of the 46/46A withdrawal.

The 61 service is also being revised:
"From 20th July, this service will operate a revised route and timetable. It will no longer serve Egghill Lane, Borrowdale Road/Norrington Road, Trescott Road, or Hoggs Lane and instead operate directly via Frankley Beeches Road.

This withdrawn section of the route will now be covered by the revised Service 27"

Service 169:
"From 20th July, this service will be withdrawn and replaced by services operating a revised route and/or timetable."


Quote from: Stu on June 05, 2025, 07:40:45 PMCouple of updates have been added to the TfWM Service Changes page:
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/ways-to-travel/buses-in-the-west-midlands/upcoming-bus-service-changes/

Looks like the 46/46A and 169 services are to be withdrawn.

For the 46/46A it just states at present:
"From 20th July, these services will be withdrawn and replaced by services operating a revised route and/or timetable."

It would appear that the 48 is going to be extended further, from Northfield to Frankley, as a result of the 46/46A withdrawal.

The 61 service is also being revised:
"From 20th July, this service will operate a revised route and timetable. It will no longer serve Egghill Lane, Borrowdale Road/Norrington Road, Trescott Road, or Hoggs Lane and instead operate directly via Frankley Beeches Road.

This withdrawn section of the route will now be covered by the revised Service 27"

Service 169:
"From 20th July, this service will be withdrawn and replaced by services operating a revised route and/or timetable."


I hope they don't do the same to the A9, presuming the 169 and 46/46A don't make enough, never see anyone get on the 169

Stu

Quote from: Stu on June 05, 2025, 07:40:45 PMIt would appear that the 48 is going to be extended further, from Northfield to Frankley, as a result of the 46/46A withdrawal.
Actually, now I read that page again, unless there's some 'crossed-wires', there will be a 48A instead?

"From Sunday 20th June, service 48A will be operating a revised timetable and route. Due to the withdrawal of services 46 and 46A, the frequency of which this service operates will be increased to every 20 minutes the route will also be extended past Northfield to Frankley to maintain service coverage. "
My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to QE Hospital | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

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Ingleboro261F

Quote from: Stu on June 05, 2025, 08:04:28 PMActually, now I read that page again, unless there's some 'crossed-wires', there will be a 48A instead?

"From Sunday 20th June, service 48A will be operating a revised timetable and route. Due to the withdrawal of services 46 and 46A, the frequency of which this service operates will be increased to every 20 minutes the route will also be extended past Northfield to Frankley to maintain service coverage. "
Why withdraw the 48A only to bring it back again???????

2206

#5
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on June 05, 2025, 08:06:17 PMWhy withdraw the 48A only to bring it back again???????
Guessing there could be an error here somewhere. I'm guessing either the 27 will cover the Northfield to Hawkesley link and the 48 will go to Frankley maybe.

Also the A9 would be the only Birmingham route still to run from Rugby it it remains unchanged?
Edit - I forgot for a minute, there is the 41 also as well.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Ingleboro261F

Quote from: 2206 on June 05, 2025, 08:09:54 PMGuessing there is could be an error here somewhere. I'm guessing either the 27 will cover the Hawkesley link and the 48 will go to Frankley maybe.

Also the A9 would be the only Birmingham route still to run from Rugby it it remains unchanged?
Must be making good money for tfwm 

SO6597

#7
I think the 48 is being extended to Hawkesley to replace the 46/46A - not too sure of the frequency of the extension - and the 27 is being switched with the 61 on the section of route mentioned.

The text explaining these changes needs a complete rewrite, it's all over the place.
 

Stu

Quote from: Ingleboro261F on June 05, 2025, 08:02:02 PMI hope they don't do the same to the A9, presuming the 169 and 46/46A don't make enough, never see anyone get on the 169
I do occasionally get the 169 - mainly on Saturdays if I need to go to Kings Heath or Shirley.

It was very convenient for me when it ran along Westridge Road, but just as useful now it serves Trittiford Road.

It is not very well used though, that is true, but the main issue I see is the reliability - it regularly runs late due to traffic delays, so people just can't rely on it to turn up as scheduled. Kings Heath is not a bus-friendly terminus point any more!

Also now, there are few parts of the route that are not covered by other services, and even on those parts, there are no marked bus stops, and very few passengers use it. 

If there must be a bus service serving those roads between Yardley Wood station and Haslucks Green Road, it would be better off using mini-buses due to all the parked cars round there.
My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to QE Hospital | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

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the trainbasher

QuoteGuessing there could be an error here somewhere. I'm guessing either the 27 will cover the Northfield to Hawkesley link and the 48 will go to Frankley maybe.

Also the A9 would be the only Birmingham route still to run from Rugby it it remains unchanged?
Edit - I forgot for a minute, there is the 41 also as well.
Watch... this space...


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Mike K

The incompetence of TfWM is truly staggering. They couldn't have got those updates more wrong even if they'd deliberately set out to mislead.

Stu

Quote from: Mike K on June 05, 2025, 08:35:53 PMThe incompetence of TfWM is truly staggering. They couldn't have got those updates more wrong even if they'd deliberately set out to mislead.
I assume the page will be updated and corrected once other details get confirmed. It's early days yet!

My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to QE Hospital | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

West Midlands Bus Users: Website | Facebook | X/Twitter | Bluesky

Justin Tyme

Quote from: Stu on June 05, 2025, 08:46:31 PMI assume the page will be updated and corrected once other details get confirmed. It's early days yet!

No doubt it will be.  It would have been better for TfWM to wait a week or two until more details of any replacements were known before announcing route withdrawals.

Another regrettable inaccuracy is that the 46/46A do not serve Frankley.  Did they mean Hawkesley?

MasterPlan

Quote from: SO6597 on June 05, 2025, 08:19:47 PMI think the 48 is being extended to Hawkesley to replace the 46/46A - not too sure of the frequency of the extension - and the 27 is being switched with the 61 on the section of route mentioned.

The text explaining these changes needs a complete rewrite, it's all over the place.
 

Did the 61 and 27 not swap routes in this area previously?
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21 & 48
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

SO6597

Quote from: MasterPlan on June 05, 2025, 09:36:41 PMDid the 61 and 27 not swap routes in this area previously?
Yes, they did. 

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