Yardley Wood Garage

[BBS]

limp mode- some ppl like the axle whine on it why they prefer it to other tridents. someone said that its sad to see the best sounding tridents go, but 4626 was not.

I'm sure you haven't noticed but buses run for passengers to take them to A to B not to make you impressed 

[Lynx1103]

Back in the 00s when low floor deckers Trident/presidents came out. If they saw a new bus behind they'd wait for it then a metrobus. 

I was on an 904 metro nicely lightly loaded while passengers were hanging back for a new president very busy on 902.

[2206]

Back in the 00s when low floor deckers Trident/presidents came out. If they saw a new bus behind they'd wait for it then a metrobus.

I was on an 904 metro nicely lightly loaded while passengers were hanging back for a new president very busy on 902.

You can see why OAPs, people with mobility issues, people with pushchairs would with them.
As they were low floor and kneeling, the driver can also lower the bus on them.

[j789]

Back in the 00s when low floor deckers Trident/presidents came out. If they saw a new bus behind they'd wait for it then a metrobus.

I was on an 904 metro nicely lightly loaded while passengers were hanging back for a new president very busy on 902.

Perhaps in the very early days of low floor buses in the mid to late 1990s passengers may have waited for the novelty value of the low floor bus compared to a Metro. However, I never really saw this in the later years of Metros (and Lynx). In my experience when a Metro was used on a regular low floor route, eg the 51 or 529, passengers would board which ever came first.

Back in the early 2000s at Hockley garage, they started using the former private hire Dual purpose Metros in normal service on all Hockley routes, like the 16,21,29,103 etc which also had lots of low floor Volvos and Mercs on. These Metros certainly stood out and I can still recall many positive comments from passengers complimenting how good the seats were on those DP Metros compared to the other buses, including low floors.

Unless you had a pushchair, mobility issues etc, any bus was fine.

[Stu]

limp mode- some ppl like the axle whine on it why they prefer it to other tridents. someone said that its sad to see the best sounding tridents go, but 4626 was not.

I'm not sure if you know what 'limp mode' actually is - it's an engine management safety feature so a vehicle can be taken for maintenance before any serious engine damage occurs.

Also, this is the difference between 'enthusiasts' and 'passengers' - enthusiasts may like things such as 'axle whine' etc, but your average passenger couldn't care less, they just want a bus to turn up when it is supposed to and get them to where they want to go.

[Mega Kickdown]

I'm not sure if you know what 'limp mode' actually is - it's an engine management safety feature so a vehicle can be taken for maintenance before any serious engine damage occurs.

Also, this is the difference between 'enthusiasts' and 'passengers' - enthusiasts may like things such as 'axle whine' etc, but your average passenger couldn't care less, they just want a bus to turn up when it is supposed to and get them to where they want to go.

yea i do, but your definition is exactly correct. but some companies ignore it and wait for the breakdown before they fix it

[Tony]

yea i do, but your definition is exactly correct. but some companies ignore it and wait for the breakdown before they fix it

You don't send a bus out of garage in limp mode.

Not only is it so stupidly slow, you are likely to cause a very expensive failure.

[Mega Kickdown]

You don't send a bus out of garage in limp mode.

Not only is it so stupidly slow, you are likely to cause a very expensive failure.

maybe in the west midlands they care about it, your the manager u would know better

but i seen many instances in cardiff where buses have been taken out in stage 2 limp and breakdown during the day, or often the next day

[Mega Kickdown]

maybe in the west midlands they care about it, your the manager u would know better

but i seen many instances in cardiff where buses have been taken out in stage 2 limp and breakdown during the day, or often the next day

cowboys would also generally ignore limp mode

does it move, yes so lets send it out!

[Tony]

cowboys would also generally ignore limp mode

does it move, yes so lets send it out!

Not even a cowboy operator wants to buy a replacement engine.

Limp mode, or engine derate, is different on different makes, but no driver of any company would take an MMC out of garage.

[Mega Kickdown]

Not even a cowboy operator wants to buy a replacement engine.

Limp mode, or engine derate, is different on different makes, but no driver of any company would take an MMC out of garage.

explains why one cardiff e200 mmc had 3 new engines in 2 years haha, they are unreliable af over here how reliable are they in the west mids?

fair enough though

the most recent reason for limp mode i heard was the filters and to ensure the bus stayed within euro 6 emissions requirements. 

not rlly relevant to yardley wood so i shall stop mentioning abt cardiff before admin police get onto me

[Tony]

explains why one cardiff e200 mmc had 3 new engines in 2 years haha, they are unreliable af over here how reliable are they in the west mids?

fair enough though

the most recent reason for limp mode i heard was the filters and to ensure the bus stayed within euro 6 emissions requirements.

not rlly relevant to yardley wood so i shall stop mentioning abt cardiff before admin police get onto me

None of what you are posting is correct.

[Mega Kickdown]

None of what you are posting is correct.

put in the most polite way possible- i dont see why

limp mode exists to reduce the strain on the bus so it keeps moving, it can still move and collect passengers but of course with a problem that can be fixed another time.

buses move till they break. they get fixed then they move till they break

[ZF B7]

Thats

put in the most polite way possible- i dont see why

limp mode exists to reduce the strain on the bus so it keeps moving, it can still move and collect passengers but of course with a problem that can be fixed another time.

buses move till they break. they get fixed then they move till they break

Stu already explained to you what limp mode actually is. A bus that is stuck on limp mode is not service worthy. What you're talking about is a bus that struggles for power but manages to eventually get up to speed. These buses are okay for service until next overhaul

[winston]

put in the most polite way possible- i dont see why

limp mode exists to reduce the strain on the bus so it keeps moving, it can still move and collect passengers but of course with a problem that can be fixed another time.

buses move till they break. they get fixed then they move till they break

Take note of what people reply to you that know what they're talking about then.

Buses in Limp mode don't stay out in service.

Buses in Limp mode are a hazard to other road users, Limp mode is to prevent serious damage being done to the vehicle. Buses driven in Limp mode are out of service, often driven with hazard lights on in an attempt to get the vehicle back to depot without requiring a tow truck at a crawl.