West midlands bus franchising

[Wumpty]

Metroline pensnett garage maybe

Can you imagine the anoraks......

"Arr cor see no Rowtmosters up Pensnett!"

[winston]

Can you imagine the anoraks......

"Arr cor see no Rowtmosters up Pensnett!"

Pensnett Garage is finished under franchising, thought WMCA want a new Dudley garage on corner of Peartree Lane. 

[karl724223]

Pensnett Garage is finished under franchising, thought WMCA want a new Dudley garage on corner of Peartree Lane.

Thought wrong then day ya 😂

[cardew]

Pensnett Garage is finished under franchising, thought WMCA want a new Dudley garage on corner of Peartree Lane.

The Franchising document states that WMCA would look to acquire or transfer the lease for Pensnett (page 390) . But it does add that the location is possibly suboptimal

[Wumpty]

Pensnett Garage is finished under franchising, thought WMCA want a new Dudley garage on corner of Peartree Lane.

I know what WMCA do want!

You could argue any of the garages are finished under franchising unless they are owned/or bought by WMCA - if they don't win tenders, then they don't need buses, nor garages, .

[winston]

The Franchising document states that WMCA would look to acquire or transfer the lease for Pensnett (page 390) . But it does add that the location is possibly suboptimal

WMCA will not be able to acquire PN garage only transfer the lease, LCP Properties control Pensnett Trading Estate.

The majority of PN's routes can all easily be operated from elsewhere. The PVR has shrunk over the past years or two with more & more Dudley area work moving to Diamond. 

[winston]

Thought wrong then day ya 😂

Really, so if Rotala win the Dudley area franchise they'll move in to Pensnett depot when they have their own depot in Tividale. I think not...🤣

Based on NX's success rate from their Manchester franchise bids, it doesn't bode well....🤐

[karl724223]

Really, so if Rotala win the Dudley area franchise they'll move in to Pensnett depot when they have their own depot in Tividale. I think not...🤣

Based on NX's success rate from their Manchester franchise bids, it doesn't bode well....🤐

Tfwm want tividale as well didnt you know that either 
And new oldbury depot to replace West Brom 
Didn't you know that either it's in the document 

[Stu]

Tfwm want tividale as well didnt you know that either
And new oldbury depot to replace West Brom
Didn't you know that either it's in the document

Simon Dunn has mentioned elsewhere here that he was approached by the WMCA with a view to acquiring the Tividale site, but told them that he had no interest in doing so.

It will probably mean that TfWM will have to make him an offer he can't refuse, which results in the WMCA paying over the odds, meaning the franchising set-up costs end up being more than was originally projected.

[Coventrybususer95]

Simon Dunn has mentioned elsewhere here that he was approached by the WMCA with a view to acquiring the Tividale site, but told them that he had no interest in doing so.

It will probably mean that TfWM will have to make him an offer he can't refuse, which results in the WMCA paying over the odds, meaning the franchising set-up costs end up being more than was originally projected.

Could WMCA not use a compulsionary purchase order to force him to sell?

[winston]

Tfwm want tividale as well didnt you know that either
And new oldbury depot to replace West Brom
Didn't you know that either it's in the document

Just because TfWM want Tividale, doesn't mean they're going to get it, its owners aren't interested in selling.

Thought you would have known that.... 🤦

[TT90]

There will be, even the franchising document predicts the WM bus market total Pvr will shrink further even under franchising.

Redundancies for Bus Drivers maybe ?.  However, on NX careers site 7 garages are recruiting for new Bus Drivers ?.   

[winston]

Simon Dunn has mentioned elsewhere here that he was approached by the WMCA with a view to acquiring the Tividale site, but told them that he had no interest in doing so.

It will probably mean that TfWM will have to make him an offer he can't refuse, which results in the WMCA paying over the odds, meaning the franchising set-up costs end up being more than was originally projected.

Tividale isn't just an operational base, it's also Rotala Group HQ, plus they own the large site opposite the main depot too.

[Wumpty]

Redundancies for Bus Drivers maybe ?.  However, on NX careers site 7 garages are recruiting for new Bus Drivers ?.   

It's still business as usual and part of their succession plan for drivers leaving/retiring. 

[Simon Dunn]

Tividale isn't just an operational base, it's also Rotala Group HQ, plus they own the large site opposite the main depot too.

For clarity - I am not simply trying to push the price up.   

I intend to work until the day I die.  I turn 49 this month.   I am aiming to work/live until I am 100.  Therefore I have 51 years of work left.   

The depot at Tividale is central to everything I want to do.  Therefore no amount of money - will fill the gap of 51 years of work.


Simon