New Deliveries / New Livery & Branding Discussion

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

"But 6717 is no different to H1016 or E202 and both weren't delivered saying Platnium on them"

BECAUSE PLATINUM IS DEAD AS A BRAND AS OF 2020 WHEN THE FIRST BATCH OF ELECTRICS CAME

I was saying that to the Poster if you had further read what I had said that it is normal spec now and that normal spec Buses we consider now ie 6128 or 4958 won't be here in a few years and 6717 and the like will be Normal spec, I also said other Companies nationally are doing the same and that there Luxury Brands are now Normal Spec

[jasmine]

I was saying that to the Poster if you had further read what I had said that it is normal spec now and that normal spec Buses we consider now ie 6128 or 4958 won't be here in a few years and 6717 and the like will be Normal spec, I also said other Companies nationally are doing the same and that there Luxury Brands are now Normal Spec

i realized and have removed the message, i dont know how to delete though.

[Stu]

Then why is 6717 different to 6128?

6128 is a 'standard-spec' ADL Enviro400MMC, ie without the USB ports, next-stop displays and extra leg-room.

I affectionately refer to this and other recent grey repaints as "diet Platinums".

Yes, they will be around for another few years, but eventually at some point, by 2030, the whole fleet will be in the Platinum-spec, being as it is the default standard now.

[Gareth]

As Platinum has completely been watered down and every new delivery is expected in that spec which is the normal standard.

This isn't 2015-2017 anymore!

People need to stop this stupid notion of platinum being 'watered down' and see it as a much needed and much welcomed upgrade to standard bus travel.

[Jack]

People need to stop this stupid notion of platinum being 'watered down' and see it as a much needed and much welcomed upgrade to standard bus travel.

How is it stupid? It has been watered down, it was new for the limited stop and express services in 2015 and completely was the image it was perceived, as more and more new deliveries took place it has become the norm for all new deliveries. Didn't once say that was negative did I? It is what is expected of things now. But at that time it was completely new and different and now it's the norm.

It has very much so been watered down now as Platinum doesn't stand for anything now, it's just the normal features expected in a bus, hence why 6717 doesn't say it's a Platinum!

[jasmine]

People need to stop this stupid notion of platinum being 'watered down' and see it as a much needed and much welcomed upgrade to standard bus travel.

this is a bit of semantics here but if anything, platinum has been absorbed by the normal fleet, which is only a good thing.

[jasmine]

How is it stupid? It has been watered down, it was new for the limited stop and express services in 2015 and completely was the image it was perceived, as more and more new deliveries took place it has become the norm for all new deliveries. Didn't once say that was negative did I? It is what is expected of things now. But at that time it was completely new and different and now it's the norm.

yeah watered down doesnt mean its a bad thing, it means the specification has trickled down and bled into the entire fleet, which as i just said previously, can only be a good thing.

[Jack]

yeah watered down doesnt mean its a bad thing, it means the specification has trickled down and bled into the entire fleet, which as i just said previously, can only be a good thing.

Exactly, people on here need to read what it said before jumping to conclusions. 

[Gareth]

Exactly, people on here need to read what it said before jumping to conclusions.

It's not jumping to conclusions when I read what's written. (and it's not just you, it's been said by other people for a couple of years, so calm down a bit) the constant use of 'watered down' is not the words to use.

[BBS]

Although this may create speculation, but isn't it better to just have the Z4001 livery ( just a red stripe, no black decal or price branding ) as a main livery, cuts NX huge problem of costs as the livery is shambles with missing bits on electrics etc and looks far better than the tin can livery on the one tone electrics where the roof is not being black anymore

[Sh4318]

As Platinum has completely been watered down and every new delivery is expected in that spec which is the normal standard.

This isn't 2015-2017 anymore!

Why does it feel like you're trying to have an argument with me? Everything going ok? How dare I ask a question

Exactly, people on here need to read what it said before jumping to conclusions.

What we need is people on this forum to stop being hostile for no reason

Although this may create speculation, but isn't it better to just have the Z4001 livery ( just a red stripe, no black decal or price branding ) as a main livery, cuts NX huge problem of costs as the livery is shambles with missing bits on electrics etc and looks far better than the tin can livery on the one tone electrics where the roof is not being black anymore

I think Z4001 is a good blueprint. I also like the branding for the new electrics

[Sh4318]

Platinum no longer exists ! It's strandard grey livery on what used be Platinum spec which is now standard.

I'm completely aware of this. Hence the platinum in quotes...

[jasmine]

Although this may create speculation, but isn't it better to just have the Z4001 livery ( just a red stripe, no black decal or price branding ) as a main livery, cuts NX huge problem of costs as the livery is shambles with missing bits on electrics etc and looks far better than the tin can livery on the one tone electrics where the roof is not being black anymore

nah i dont think so, i think E251 and other examples painted the exact same way should be the standard.

I'd live for the rear end to also be black like it is in coventry and for the stripe to be two shades of red like it is with coventry's blue, but we can't have everything. I have to admit it now that E251 looks extremely smart

[BBS]

nah i dont think so, i think E251 and other examples painted the exact same way should be the standard.

I'd live for the rear end to also be black like it is in coventry and for the stripe to be two shades of red like it is with coventry's blue, but we can't have everything. I have to admit it now that E251 looks extremely smart

E251 has a missing silver lining on the rear, to save 50p of costs. It will be best for NX to do the Z4001 livery as their in a money crisis right now judging the way the new buses look now 

[don]

E251 has a missing silver lining on the rear, to save 50p of costs. It will be best for NX to do the Z4001 livery as their in a money crisis right now judging the way the new buses look now

Hardly likely as Z4009 and Z4010 have had similar vinyls to the other electrics. I think they look very smart - the plain grey with black window surrounds on the other Z vehicles looks too plain.