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Carolean Coaches, Willenhall

Started by Westy, February 02, 2024, 06:20:13 PM

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Tony

Quote from: Ingleboro261F on November 20, 2024, 04:42:44 PMPresumably e200mmcs?
No necessarily,  any E200 with a euro 6 exhaust will suit 

MW

Although there are a fair few Used E200MMCs coming onto the market recently. 

Tony

Quote from: MW on November 20, 2024, 06:41:09 PMAlthough there are a fair few Used E200MMCs coming onto the market recently.
I was at ADL Anston yesterday, There's about 20 brand new ones there waiting operators.

Stu

Quote from: Ingleboro261F on November 20, 2024, 04:42:44 PMPresumably e200mmcs?
Who says they have to be E200s?

Quote from: Tony on November 20, 2024, 04:58:54 PMNo necessarily,  any E200 with a euro 6 exhaust will suit
Slight correction there Tony, any Euro6 bus will suit! :grin:

It seems to me that the MCV Evora is becoming quite popular with smaller operators.
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Tony

Quote from: Stu on November 20, 2024, 07:20:20 PMWho says they have to be E200s?
Slight correction there Tony, any Euro6 bus will suit! :grin:

It seems to me that the MCV Evora is becoming quite popular with smaller operators.
Knowing Shaz Ali and how he realised he messed up at A2Z with his random purchases I suspect he will find some decent E200s from somewhere

BlackCountryBusSpotter

Quote from: Tony on November 20, 2024, 07:42:11 PMKnowing Shaz Ali and how he realised he messed up at A2Z with his random purchases I suspect he will find some decent E200s from somewhere
The MCV Volvo's would seem a solid option but probably would be E200's to match his Fleet plus none of the routes mentioned scream Heavyweight Bus
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

DJ

Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on November 20, 2024, 09:58:49 PMThe MCV Volvo's would seem a solid option but probably would be E200's to match his Fleet plus none of the routes mentioned scream Heavyweight Bus

MCV do offer a 10.8m eVoRa, but still more of a 'heavyweight' bus compared to an E200. I agree that keeping a standardised fleet would have it's benefits, but you also run the risk of the whole fleet being grounded, should an issue arise.

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Lukeee

Quote from: DJ on November 21, 2024, 07:39:51 AMMCV do offer a 10.8m eVoRa, but still more of a 'heavyweight' bus compared to an E200. I agree that keeping a standardised fleet would have it's benefits, but you also run the risk of the whole fleet being grounded, should an issue arise.
I imagine cost would be another issue, unless he plans on buying/leasing new vehicles as second hand evoras (partially the 10.8m length) aren't exactly common

BlackCountryBusSpotter

Quote from: DJ on November 21, 2024, 07:39:51 AMMCV do offer a 10.8m eVoRa, but still more of a 'heavyweight' bus compared to an E200. I agree that keeping a standardised fleet would have it's benefits, but you also run the risk of the whole fleet being grounded, should an issue arise.
Yeah plenty of E200's avaliable and as long as he doesn't do what Travel Express did and buy sheds then he should be Ok. It doesn't appear he brought Sheds with the last E200's they have 6 Buses at the minute not sure how many he needs I believe they have 6 two ex Vision, 1 ex Panther plus 2 ex Igo.
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

Ingleboro261F

Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on November 21, 2024, 10:14:28 AMYeah plenty of E200's avaliable and as long as he doesn't do what Travel Express did and buy sheds then he should be Ok. It doesn't appear he brought Sheds with the last E200's they have 6 Buses at the minute not sure how many he needs I believe they have 6 two ex Vision, 1 ex Panther plus 2 ex Igo.
Is there not other cheaper buses that would be considered?

Lukeee

Quote from: Ingleboro261F on November 21, 2024, 10:18:53 AMIs there not other cheaper buses that would be considered?
As long as there Euro 6 and meet the minimum seating requirements set out in the contract then any bus could be used 

Tony

Quote from: Ingleboro261F on November 21, 2024, 10:18:53 AMIs there not other cheaper buses that would be considered?
Cheaper than an E200?

Ingleboro261F


Tony

Quote from: Ingleboro261F on November 21, 2024, 01:04:27 PMNot sure
There's a reason why most 'low cost' operators run E200s, both good operators and bad ones.

BlackCountryBusSpotter

Quote from: Ingleboro261F on November 21, 2024, 10:18:53 AMIs there not other cheaper buses that would be considered?
As Tony said no, but If I was to have guessed probably not, Volvo didn't produce a Lightweight Midibus, neither did Scania, that leaves the StreetLite which there doesn't seem many up for sale and again they are probably more expensive for parts for a small number being harder to source, and the Optare Solo but again probably more expensive and harder to source parts for a small number, E200's therefore are probably not only cheap to buy, they are cheap to get parts for as there common sort of like the Ford Fiesta of the Bus World. Plus even if the E200 is more expensive than a Solo it would be easier for Carolean to use them as Drivers would be familiar with them and therefore when he hires more than can rotate around all the routes.
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

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