Electric Buses

[Tony]

The first 40 expected to enter service at Perry Barr are E164-73/6/8/84/9/91/4-201/3-5/7/8/10/1/5/8-24/6/7.

[busboy31]

The first 40 expected to enter service at Perry Barr are E164-73/6/8/84/9/91/4-201/3-5/7/8/10/1/5/8-24/6/7.

So when are the Enviros getting debranded?

[Tony]

So when are the Enviros getting debranded?

When they move on.

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

There will probably still be some 2009/10 Scanias lingering around after this batch of electrics. Hopefully NX don't eat into the 2007 Enviro 400s with this batch, they are still doing very well.

Well assumingly the Black Country Garages will keep there Scania's at first WA and WB. WA need Scania's for some routes although I could imagine B7RLE's will move there to release the Scania's and WB might gain E200MMC's to replace it's Scania's as for the Early Envrio's WA, WB and maybe WN or PN could have them. WA could do with them depending on the Hydrogens to try and make the City Routes Double Decker plus maybe the 10, 6 which has a mixture and 7 Double Decker 10 always seems busy when I've caught it. Apart from that PB will loose E400's that are younger that could go to WA, WB could use them to replace the Gemini's and WN the Tridents it has left or maybe they go to AG or YW to replace Tridents there that aren't Euro 6 as WN's Tridents are Euro 6 and WB's Gemini's apart from 4506-4523/25 I think and 4679 aren't Euro 6

[filbus1]

Well assumingly the Black Country Garages will keep there Scania's at first WA and WB. WA need Scania's for some routes although I could imagine B7RLE's will move there to release the Scania's and WB might gain E200MMC's to replace it's Scania's as for the Early Envrio's WA, WB and maybe WN or PN could have them. WA could do with them depending on the Hydrogens to try and make the City Routes Double Decker plus maybe the 10, 6 which has a mixture and 7 Double Decker 10 always seems busy when I've caught it. Apart from that PB will loose E400's that are younger that could go to WA, WB could use them to replace the Gemini's and WN the Tridents it has left or maybe they go to AG or YW to replace Tridents there that aren't Euro 6 as WN's Tridents are Euro 6 and WB's Gemini's apart from 4506-4523/25 I think and 4679 aren't Euro 6

YW is going fully electric with the double deck fleet

[BK63 YWP]

Well assumingly the Black Country Garages will keep there Scania's at first WA and WB. WA need Scania's for some routes although I could imagine B7RLE's will move there to release the Scania's and WB might gain E200MMC's to replace it's Scania's as for the Early Envrio's WA, WB and maybe WN or PN could have them. WA could do with them depending on the Hydrogens to try and make the City Routes Double Decker plus maybe the 10, 6 which has a mixture and 7 Double Decker 10 always seems busy when I've caught it. Apart from that PB will loose E400's that are younger that could go to WA, WB could use them to replace the Gemini's and WN the Tridents it has left or maybe they go to AG or YW to replace Tridents there that aren't Euro 6 as WN's Tridents are Euro 6 and WB's Gemini's apart from 4506-4523/25 I think and 4679 aren't Euro 6

Or wait until til June when cascades happen? There probably a plan being planned out as the electrics drop into place. 

[Stu]

YW is going fully electric with the double deck fleet

I don't think there's enough buses on order to fully upgrade YW's double-decks as well as PB's. Not this year anyway.

Or wait until til June when cascades happen? There probably a plan being planned out as the electrics drop into place.

Yes, from June onwards will be interesting times for sure. And I'm sure there is already a plan that Tony has in place, though obviously he won't be able to divulge details here.

Personally, I would expect the Scania OmniCities to be scrapped or sold on, as there would be little point in moving them on to another garage and having to type-train drivers and engineers.

The Platinum E400s will likely be used to replace older non-Euro6 vehicles at West Brom and Acocks Green, and then of course the other E400s will find homes elsewhere, just not at AG.

[BBS]

Well assumingly the Black Country Garages will keep there Scania's at first WA and WB. WA need Scania's for some routes although I could imagine B7RLE's will move there to release the Scania's and WB might gain E200MMC's to replace it's Scania's as for the Early Envrio's WA, WB and maybe WN or PN could have them. WA could do with them depending on the Hydrogens to try and make the City Routes Double Decker plus maybe the 10, 6 which has a mixture and 7 Double Decker 10 always seems busy when I've caught it. Apart from that PB will loose E400's that are younger that could go to WA, WB could use them to replace the Gemini's and WN the Tridents it has left or maybe they go to AG or YW to replace Tridents there that aren't Euro 6 as WN's Tridents are Euro 6 and WB's Gemini's apart from 4506-4523/25 I think and 4679 aren't Euro 6

Pretty much all of this won't happen, tridents can't go to AG, E200mmcs aren't enough for WA, they'll need to get AGs ones too which don't seem like their moving anytime soon

[Jack]

Pretty much all of this won't happen, tridents can't go to AG, E200mmcs aren't enough for WA, they'll need to get AGs ones too which don't seem like their moving anytime soon

Be interesting to see how E200MMC's would fit round some of Walsall's routes! I think the Urban 2's still at Coventry will be placed at a few garages to see off Omnilinks.

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

Pretty much all of this won't happen, tridents can't go to AG, E200mmcs aren't enough for WA, they'll need to get AGs ones too which don't seem like their moving anytime soon

I said E200MMC at WB B7RLE's at WA as they already operate them and maybe some E200's from Coventry to both. WB operate the E200MMC already so I was keeping them together 

[Tony]

I said E200MMC at WB B7RLE's at WA as they already operate them and maybe some E200's from Coventry to both. WB operate the E200MMC already so I was keeping them together

Pretty pointless trying to guess, it's my job and I don't know yet

[cardew]

re: E200MMC, is it still the case that they can't be used on the YW27? They were briefly used but but clearly had an issue and possibly one of the reasons they were transferred to WB. The route has been curtailed since then so maybe things have changed?. As has been mentioned before, it will be tricky to find a single deck electric bus to fit under Bournville Lane bridge

[Westy]

Pretty pointless trying to guess, it's my job and I don't know yet

Depends if you want to introduce a completly new type to a garage or not surely, then you have the issue of driver training/familiarisation as well?

[Solo1]

What services will see the new electric buses be going on first as I make it 62 deckers for service - 40 new buses I know the deckers are been replaced i was asking as only 40 new electric buses coming out leaving 12 diesel busesso what will they end up on

[Stu]

What services will see the new electric buses be going on

Here's a clue, all of Perry Barr's diesel double-decks are being replaced.