Festive timetables

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

You can still use it to Sandwell and Dudley as it comes out the road the other side of the bridge, or ad you said a frequency increase but double deckers would be ideal for the route

Yes but where do they get from there are many routes that could do with Double Deckers such as the WA 11, 11A, 4's, 31/32, 29, 34/37 of a peak time but they don't have enough Double Deckers. 

[Steve3229vp]

Yes but where do they get from there are many routes that could do with Double Deckers such as the WA 11, 11A, 4's, 31/32, 29, 34/37 of a peak time but they don't have enough Double Deckers.

That's what I've been trying to tell him. The last couple of weeks there has been single deckers on the 937 and 997 in peak hours, so that reinforces what both of us have now said which is - Where do you get the double deckers from ?
 

[Stu]

Is there actually a reason lots of services are running until 6 or 7, that I may have missed. And why the 51, 529, 79 and so are running until 11PM or Midnight.

I don't know for certain but it may be down to the staff numbers available to work. Some drivers will already be on holiday, many may not wish to work the overtime.

[Westy]

https://x.com/nxwestmidlands/status/1739719507935949037?s=20

Is this the same section we were discussing earlier?

(Note : Incident now cleared!)

[EK40]

Yes but where do they get from there are many routes that could do with Double Deckers such as the WA 11, 11A, 4's, 31/32, 29, 34/37 of a peak time but they don't have enough Double Deckers.

We already know the issue with the 4 regarding the sandwell & dudley station bridge
The 11/A also cant use doubles due to low trees on the route at tipton 

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

That's what I've been trying to tell him. The last couple of weeks there has been single deckers on the 937 and 997 in peak hours, so that reinforces what both of us have now said which is - Where do you get the double deckers from ?
 

The 997 needs Double Deckers I Don't get it as it takes ages to get to Walsall and Brum, but it serves busy areas like Aldridge, Rushall, Pheasey and more. The X51 occasionally has Single Deckers on it and it gets rammed. The 51 always seems to have Doubles on 

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

I don't know for certain but it may be down to the staff numbers available to work. Some drivers will already be on holiday, many may not wish to work the overtime.

This has never been an issue as far as I'm aware on other Boxing Days

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

We already know the issue with the 4 regarding the sandwell & dudley station bridge
The 11/A also cant use doubles due to low trees on the route at tipton

There has been one pictured on the 311 but yeah low trees on Powis Aveune.

[Tony]

This has never been an issue as far as I'm aware on other Boxing Days

All driving duties on Boxing day are volunteer overtime.

[PB50]

Is there actually a reason lots of services are running until 6 or 7, that I may have missed. And why the 51, 529, 79 and so are running until 11PM or Midnight.

Only main routes on Boxing Day run until the end of night like the 4 service. Other routes finish around teatime. Been like that few years now on Boxing Day. 

[PB50]

The 997 needs Double Deckers I Don't get it as it takes ages to get to Walsall and Brum, but it serves busy areas like Aldridge, Rushall, Pheasey and more. The X51 occasionally has Single Deckers on it and it gets rammed. The 51 always seems to have Doubles on

Occasionally running boards for the 51 have single deckers on because of not being able to use many hydrogen vehicles now. Don't know if this will still be the case come January.

[Wba_lad]

@Tony will double deckers be considered on the 4s and 3s 

[EK40]

@Tony will double deckers be considered on the 4s and 3s

Isnt the usual 3 allocation e200s?
Probably would need to be deemed enough to get full size singles (which we dont have much of a shortage of) before stepping up to doubles (especially when city routes like the 12/13 could use them more)

And for the 4 
an exemption wont let a 14ft double decker fit under a 13ft bridge and i cant see how you'd divert the route sensibly considering the nearest way around would be up spon lane which would probably make anyone on the A4034 annoyed as they wont have any nearby peaktime service anymore

[2206]

And for the 4
an exemption wont let a 14ft double decker fit under a 13ft bridge and i cant see how you'd divert the route sensibly considering the nearest way around would be up spon lane

West Bromwich Street is nearer than Spon Lane. Think it was said that is the dead route from WB.

There is an exemption for buses though its been explained its "not a good idea to tell drivers to ignore one sign and not other identical ones elsewhere". And i'd guess for same reason Diamond don't use deckers on the 4 either.

https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=2835.msg321284#msg321284

[Jack]

Well no not really, mark it on the running boards in red and bold EXEMPTION IN PLACE, or why don't they change the route slightly to go the way West Brom send double deckers on dead run to and from West Bromwich. Something needs to be done regarding the 4 service.

Nothing wrong with the 4's it's you just moaning again, they are frequent enough. You clearly can't argue with a Red Circle Sign so keep dreaming about DD's as it's not going to happen.