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the Dennis trident/E40D question

Started by spacecowboy150, December 07, 2023, 04:30:51 PM

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spacecowboy150

Quote from: Tony on December 14, 2023, 01:56:28 PMThe gearboxes are different to cope with the different engines.

The amount of energy produced depends on the amount of fuel being burnt efficiently, so if you only have four cylinders to get the same horsepower each cylinder will be burning 50% more fuel to give the same power hence the faster revving
So basically they still use up the same amount of fuel 

Tony

Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 14, 2023, 07:00:12 PMSo basically they still use up the same amount of fuel
As a hybrid they used less (when new), but there will be very little difference as diesels if the performance is the same, that's physics. If all your energy comes from exploding diesel and the vehicle is accelerating the same and travelling at the same speed it will need the same energy use to make it do so.

Electric buses have a far more efficient use of energy. A diesel bus travelling down a steep hill will not burn any diesel, but will waste energy as heat from the brakes. An electric bus going downhill generates electricity for the batteries instead of wasting it as heat.

With regards how the hybrid E400s work. The engine is not connected to the axle in any way, all the engine does is generate electricity. The Volvo B5LHs are different and can use the engine directly or the electric traction motors to provide momentum.

karl724223

Personally so long as the heaters work i don't really care about the other end 😂
Oh and ALFs get off 

Ronnoc

Quote from: Tony on December 14, 2023, 07:08:24 PMAs a hybrid they used less (when new), but there will be very little difference as diesels if the performance is the same, that's physics. If all your energy comes from exploding diesel and the vehicle is accelerating the same and travelling at the same speed it will need the same energy use to make it do so.

Electric buses have a far more efficient use of energy. A diesel bus travelling down a steep hill will not burn any diesel, but will waste energy as heat from the brakes. An electric bus going downhill generates electricity for the batteries instead of wasting it as heat.

With regards how the hybrid E400s work. The engine is not connected to the axle in any way, all the engine does is generate electricity. The Volvo B5LHs are different and can use the engine directly or the electric traction motors to provide momentum.
How well do B5LHs fare compared to diesel buses in terms of fuel efficiency? And which bus types are the least fuel efficient in the NX fleet?

Tony

Quote from: Ronnoc on December 14, 2023, 08:06:07 PMHow well do B5LHs fare compared to diesel buses in terms of fuel efficiency? And which bus types are the least fuel efficient in the NX fleet?
Have a read of this 
NX (zemo.org.uk)

BlackCountryBusSpotter

Quote from: Tony on December 14, 2023, 08:09:41 PMHave a read of this
NX (zemo.org.uk)
Interesting Neausea was mentioned I assume that was due to quietness whilst moving or the jerkiness. 
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

spacecowboy150

Quote from: karl724223 on December 14, 2023, 07:29:11 PMOh and ALFs get off


allow it man i'm just trying to learn how buses work whats the problem with that

BlackCountryBusSpotter

Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 15, 2023, 07:53:19 AMallow it man i'm just trying to learn how buses work whats the problem with that
Do you know what ALF Means I don't think he was targeting you specifically 
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

spacecowboy150

Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 15, 2023, 11:10:28 AMDo you know what ALF Means I don't think he was targeting you specifically
I do and im one of the people he could have been referring to

West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek

Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 15, 2023, 11:10:28 AMDo you know what ALF Means I don't think he was targeting you specifically
What does ALF mean
5/51/X51/529

BlackCountryBusSpotter

Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

spacecowboy150


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