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Started by Nathan4775, August 28, 2013, 08:24:46 PM

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Stu

Quote from: mesub on November 24, 2023, 07:11:19 PMI've been meaning to post this, but it looks like the more "specialised" stops are starting to be rebranded to the current branding, replacing the old network west midlands branding.


What do you mean by 'specialised'? :huh:
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Rachvince53

Quote from: Sandy Lane on April 25, 2023, 07:11:17 PMThks for the replies.
If someone gets injured I bet those markings will be painted on the road overnight!
Is this a TfWM problem or the local council?
Not sure but I would imagine it's the council who are responsible (stop flags and some shelters in the West Midlands are a TfWM responsibility I think).

Rachvince53

Quote from: Sandy Lane on April 25, 2023, 04:50:10 PMQuestion about 'Bus Stop' marked out area on roads in residential streets please. There are 2 flagged stops on William Bristow Rd Coventry that don't have these markings on the road and so cars park on the pavement right at these stops. To get the driver to see you you have to walk into the road between the cars to put your hand out and then step back as the bus arrives. Not come across this before.

Surely if the road was marked out the cars wouldn't park there and it would be alot safer.

Are there other stops like this?
On the Penn Road towards Wolves, the bus stop is positioned at a parking bay for the shops. Most of the time buses have to stop in the main road (A449). Further up near the Mount pub several years ago a bus lay by was installed. However the lay-by isn't wide enough and buses block part of the busy road. 

Sandy Lane

Quote from: Rachvince53 on November 24, 2023, 09:49:58 PMOn the Penn Road towards Wolves, the bus stop is positioned at a parking bay for the shops. Most of the time buses have to stop in the main road (A449). Further up near the Mount pub several years ago a bus lay by was installed. However the lay-by isn't wide enough and buses block part of the busy road.
Just yesterday I found another Coventry stop without the yellow road markings. This is the Dorchester Way stop close to the hospital - a new shelter has been put up  bit further on from where it used to be. 

So here's the question. As the road is not marked as a bus stop and there are no double yellow lines can you in theory park your car there and not get a ticket? It could offer free parking for a few cars instead of paying for the expensive hospital car park. 

ellspurs

Quote from: Sandy Lane on November 25, 2023, 06:20:13 PMJust yesterday I found another Coventry stop without the yellow road markings. This is the Dorchester Way stop close to the hospital - a new shelter has been put up  bit further on from where it used to be.

So here's the question. As the road is not marked as a bus stop and there are no double yellow lines can you in theory park your car there and not get a ticket? It could offer free parking for a few cars instead of paying for the expensive hospital car park.
If this stop is on Dorchester Way, then the whole road has "Resident Permit" parking on it, which limits you to an hour in a marked bay, and no parking on any of the side roads.

If it is the stop on Clifford Bridge Road labelled Dorchester Way on Google maps, it is on an Urban Clearway so you cannot stop.

Around hospitals, if you're allowed to park there then 15 other people will already be there.

mesub

Quote from: Stu on November 24, 2023, 07:19:59 PMWhat do you mean by 'specialised'? :huh:


The bus stops that have Real Time information built into them, and so the flag is actually a display (like here).
23 - Bartley Green
76 - Northfield
X20 - Birmingham Via Longbridge, Northfield & QE Hospital / University

Sandy Lane

Quote from: ellspurs on November 25, 2023, 06:55:24 PMIf this stop is on Dorchester Way, then the whole road has "Resident Permit" parking on it, which limits you to an hour in a marked bay, and no parking on any of the side roads.

If it is the stop on Clifford Bridge Road labelled Dorchester Way on Google maps, it is on an Urban Clearway so you cannot stop.

Around hospitals, if you're allowed to park there then 15 other people will already be there.
It's the CBR stop. I reckon the urban clearway signage has now gone - when the cycleway was put in. That's why I was thinking you may be able to park at the stop without getting a ticket? Worth checking out if driving along there next week.

ellspurs

For all intent and purpose I think it is still an Urban Clearway. I remember seeing the sign heading up towards the hospital from Tesco when I was last down there.

Parking has been restricted on there since 2004; I wouldn't recommend parking along there.

mesub

QuoteWhat do you mean by 'specialised'? :huh:

Just realised that the attachment didn't upload!


23 - Bartley Green
76 - Northfield
X20 - Birmingham Via Longbridge, Northfield & QE Hospital / University

mesub

If this doesn't work then I think there's a bug with uploading attachments on mobile devices:
23 - Bartley Green
76 - Northfield
X20 - Birmingham Via Longbridge, Northfield & QE Hospital / University

mesub

Hopped onto the computer so this should work:

23 - Bartley Green
76 - Northfield
X20 - Birmingham Via Longbridge, Northfield & QE Hospital / University

ellspurs

Quote from: mesub on November 27, 2023, 07:34:08 PMHopped onto the computer so this should work:


If they're updating them then I hope they're making sure they actually work. The one on Windward Way/Woodpecker Grove hasn't worked for years.

Stu

Quote from: ellspurs on November 27, 2023, 08:03:11 PMIf they're updating them then I hope they're making sure they actually work. The one on Windward Way/Woodpecker Grove hasn't worked for years.
Has it ever been reported to TfWM?


My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

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ellspurs

Quote from: Stu on November 27, 2023, 08:19:20 PMHas it ever been reported to TfWM?



I gave up after the third time they said "something'll be done about it" and nothing happened.

This was when it was network West Midlands.

Jack

Quote from: ellspurs on November 27, 2023, 08:20:56 PMI gave up after the third time they said "something'll be done about it" and nothing happened.

This was when it was network West Midlands.
Agreed, I refuse to report stuff now, never gets fixed. I reported shelter lights out of use way back in 2018 and those still haven't been fixed.

You're better off moaning a lot before something gets done.

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