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Started by Tony, February 01, 2020, 02:10:54 PM

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EK40

Quote from: Owen on October 05, 2023, 11:37:28 PMCould the electric buses use summer road, as the height of an electric is 4.2 metres. Would the 28 be a candidate to go double deck?
A low height vehicle could fit under the bridge as its 14'0 and most low height deckers are 13'5-13'10 but nx doesnt ever use low height vehicles so its unlikely 


BBS

QuoteAbsolutely no way, when the new electrics arrive they will eventually and hopefully be used on routes that frequently have single deckers on them like 2, 3, 7, 33, 65, 67 and 907
4/4A definitely needs them 
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

2900

Quote from: EK40 on October 06, 2023, 08:23:24 AMA low height vehicle could fit under the bridge as its 14'0 and most low height deckers are 13'5-13'10 but nx doesnt ever use low height vehicles so its unlikely


That would be like opening a can of worms in a way, wrong height decker allocated etc 

Steve3229vp

Quote from: BBS on October 06, 2023, 08:59:22 AM4/4A definitely needs them
Yes I agree, but I think Electrics will go to YW and possibly transferring Platinums to AG, but that is only a guess

Stu

Quote from: Steve3229vp on October 06, 2023, 10:32:10 AMYes I agree, but I think Electrics will go to YW and possibly transferring Platinums to AG, but that is only a guess
As has been stated before, the next lot of incoming electric double decks are mainly to replace Scania OmniLinks and the last few non-Euro6 doubles.
At YW, I would guess new electrics will go on the 50, then Platinums will go on the 2 and 3. It's possible then that some Platinums might get transferred to AG in order to withdraw any non-Euro6 deckers.
But I understand AG is due some electrics of its own within the next two years, and you'll probably see the E200MMCs move out to replace OmniLinks elsewhere, maybe WB?


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2206

Quote from: Stu on October 06, 2023, 10:51:48 AMAs has been stated before, the next lot of incoming electric double decks are mainly to replace Scania OmniLinks and the last few non-Euro6 doubles.



Maybe electrics for the 8A/8C at PB to replace the oldest Scanias then.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Ronnoc

Quote from: 2206 on October 06, 2023, 12:08:47 PMMaybe electrics for the 8A/8C at PB to replace the oldest Scanias then.
Although the 8A/C does really need double deckers, I think it will be a while before they get double deckers. The city centre routes that get rammed need them first. Hopefully in a few years time the single deck to double deck ratio balances out.

Stu

On the subject of low bridges, I note with interest that the bridge on Bournville Lane - that the 27 passes under - is rated at 2.9m metres max height.

Looking through specs of various electric single decks currently available, none are less than 3.0m high.

I would guess that at some point in the future, this service will have to be rerouted to avoid this bridge, presumably along Mary Vale Road. In which case there would be no need to use single decks anyway, therefore YW wouldn't technically 'need' any at all.

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2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

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Steve3229vp

Quote from: 2206 on October 06, 2023, 12:08:47 PMMaybe electrics for the 8A/8C at PB to replace the oldest Scanias then.
Can't put double deckers on the 8A/8C due to a low bridge on Highgate Road

2206

#294
Quote from: Steve3229vp on October 06, 2023, 02:41:27 PMCan't put double deckers on the 8A/8C due to a low bridge on Highgate Road
Its been said before electrics and platinums can fit under.
Its the Omnicity and 48XX at PB that don't.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Tony

Quote from: Steve3229vp on October 06, 2023, 02:41:27 PMCan't put double deckers on the 8A/8C due to a low bridge on Highgate Road
The Electrics do fit under there, they are certified as 14'2" and the bridge is signed at 14'3"

Stu

Quote from: Tony on October 06, 2023, 02:53:04 PMThe Electrics do fit under there, they are certified as 14'2" and the bridge is signed at 14'3"
The bridge on Summer Road in Erdington is also signed at 14'3", so theoretically the 28 and 96 could use E400MMCs then.

So its actually the 66 at PB which 'needs' single-decks, as the bridge on Station Road is signed at 13'.
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2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

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ellspurs

Quote from: Stu on October 06, 2023, 03:10:26 PMThe bridge on Summer Road in Erdington is also signed at 14'3", so theoretically the 28 and 96 could use E400MMCs then.



The bridge on Summer Road in Erdington has had 14' 0" on it since 2008 according to Google Street View.

Stu

Quote from: ellspurs on October 06, 2023, 06:29:56 PMThe bridge on Summer Road in Erdington has had 14' 0" on it since 2008 according to Google Street View.
Ah, I see now, I'm not so well versed in imperial measurements, however curiously they both do show 4.3m? (Which is where I've got mixed up presumably!)

Highgate Road
Robin Hood Lane - fine for E400MMCs on the 5


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11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

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RW

Any future electric vehicles acquired for NXWM likely to be the new  ADL Enviro 400EV?

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