Service/timetable changes from 23rd July 2023 (City Centre Changes)

[Tony]

i know 2&3 stop there but could have 2 3 4/4A 5 & 6 all from outside Primark & m&s

Yes let's try and fit 3 buses (one 4, one 6 and one 2,3 or 5), o into a space long enough for two buses and block the city centre up

[Solo1]

What can't they leave 33 51 where it is & 934etc Carr's lane 

[Tony]

What can't they leave 33 51 where it is & 934etc Carr's lane

You have seen Carrs Lane where buses struggle to get past. imagine if you had 5 services loading there as well. Why are you so against using a stop at the Square Peg which has plenty of room, is as central to the city centre as any bus stop is nowadays and actually meets TfWM's own AQPS rules, where none of your suggestions do. TfWM are required to provide a stop where departures can be for four minutes to load passenger. If like the 50 service has more frequent departures between the two operators, then they provide a double length stop

[ellspurs]

Ah let them have Priory Queensway and put the east Birmingham/North Solihull buses back in the middle. Get the 14/94/95/x12/x13 back on Lower Bull Street.

[Solo1]

Is the move temporary while they do the metro line

[Solo1]

If the 45/7 moving to high st wouldnt of been better to of had 33 51 907 from high st  & 934 Carr's lane & leave 45&  97 as they are 

[Steve3229vp]

If the 45/7 moving to high st wouldnt of been better to of had 33 51 907 from high st  & 934 Carr's lane & leave 45&  97 as they are

And how would the 97 get to its current stop from next week ?

[Jack]

And how would the 97 get to its current stop from next week ?

Is Dale End closing completely? That will mean the Stratford Road services won't be able to go along there...

[Tony]

Is Dale End closing completely? That will mean the Stratford Road services won't be able to go along there...

Yes, you can't put team tracks in without digging the road up

[Jack]

Yes, you can't put team tracks in without digging the road up

So guessing the 4/4A will be diverting too? 2/3/5/6 can all do the current 45/47 loop? 

[Jack]

Lots of unhappy people today with the stop changes. Mainly not happy that they have to walk further now with services at Square Peg. I can't understand why they had to be done, the bottle of Dale End is still open and everything can pass through fine...

[Tony]

Lots of unhappy people today with the stop changes. Mainly not happy that they have to walk further now with services at Square Peg. I can't understand why they had to be done, the bottle of Dale End is still open and everything can pass through fine...

It won't be open as soon as the workers turn up to dig the road for the Tram tracks though will it

[ellspurs]

Lots of unhappy people today with the stop changes. Mainly not happy that they have to walk further now with services at Square Peg. I can't understand why they had to be done, the bottle of Dale End is still open and everything can pass through fine...

Boo hoo. Swap them with the services that terminate on Priory Queensway or one of the other outer places.

From looking what stops at the Square Peg (PQ3 from looking at the map), are these the Walsall Road services? Are they not allowed to get on at the stop at the top of Carrs Lane (WS7)? The updated Birmingham City Centre map gives WS7 as a stop for the services stopping at PQ3.

Edit: I'm referring to this map: https://www.tfwm.org.uk/media/ac0ehyx3/birmingham-city-centre-map-20230723.pdf

[Stu]

From looking what stops at the Square Peg (PQ3 from looking at the map), are these the Walsall Road services? Are they not allowed to get on at the stop at the top of Carrs Lane (WS7)? The updated Birmingham City Centre map gives WS7 as a stop for the services stopping at PQ3.

33, 51 and 907 use stop PQ3.

934, 935, 936, 937, 997 and X51 use stop MS7, but also call at PQ3 out of city.

https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/service-updates/changes-to-birmingham-city-centre-stops

[ellspurs]

33, 51 and 907 use stop PQ3.

934, 935, 936, 937, 997 and X51 use stop MS7, but also call at PQ3 out of city.

https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/service-updates/changes-to-birmingham-city-centre-stops

Ah well if they're that desperate to not walk the 200 metres up to the Square Peg, they can just catch one of those buses and get off at the Square Peg.