New Deliveries / New Livery & Branding Discussion

[RW]

2019 now back at WN repainted with the extra red on the same as 2231.

The 'extra' red certainly helps to relieve the all over grey appearance.

[cardew]

The remaining Coventry ones are very close, the charging points are in, just needing enough electricity to use them which we are promised this month. The Birmingham ones are looking like November/December time

We are a few weeks on from this message now, so it must be frustrating to still have so many Coventry electrics waiting to enter service and delaying cascades.

[Danthebusman]

We are a few weeks on from this message now, so it must be frustrating to still have so many Coventry electrics waiting to enter service and delaying cascades.

i'm not complaining, the diesels get to stay longer!

[2900]

quick ? has WMT to nxwm ever had a single colour livery, i can't think of one, may be the early batch of leyland lynx were they grey but arches/skirts another colour ? i quite like the single shade of blue Arriva are currently using. GMCA BEE network gone for single shade yellow colour 

[Gareth]

quick ? has WMT to nxwm ever had a single colour livery, i can't think of one, may be the early batch of leyland lynx were they grey but arches/skirts another colour ? i quite like the single shade of blue Arriva are currently using. GMCA BEE network gone for single shade yellow colour

Very possibly by 1996, pre low floor the vast majority of the fleet would have been in 'red stripe', although in varying shades of silver and grey. I think the previous blue and silver/grey had been mostly eradicated by then apart from a couple of Fleetlines and a few lynxes.

[winston]

Very possibly by 1996, pre low floor the vast majority of the fleet would have been in 'red stripe', although in varying shades of silver and grey. I think the previous blue and silver/grey had been mostly eradicated by then apart from a couple of Fleetlines and a few lynxes.

Those aren't 'single colour liveries'

The closest single colour livery WMT has had was the 2nd Timesaver Livery that 2957 currently carries i.e. allover blue with Gold Relief / Fleetnames, but that wasn't a standard fleet livery:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/43589242075

That said, even the new Bee Network Livery has black relief & detailing

[Gareth]

Those aren't 'single colour liveries'

The closest single colour livery WMT has had was the 2nd Timesaver Livery that 2957 currently carries i.e. allover blue with Gold Relief / Fleetnames, but that wasn't a standard fleet livery:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/43589242075

That said, even the new Bee Network Livery has black relief & detailing

Ah, yes. Sorry I misread it as a single livery!

[don]

I know all of CV's electric double decks have yet to enter service, but with the knowledge the electric city project involves 100% electric by 2025, it appears 10 E200s will require replacement and cascade next year, perhaps. Is there any news which could be shared on how this might happen, and is it intended the double deckers replace the B7RLEs in their entirety at CV? 

[Stu]

I know all of CV's electric double decks have yet to enter service, but with the knowledge the electric city project involves 100% electric by 2025, it appears 10 E200s will require replacement and cascade next year, perhaps. Is there any news which could be shared on how this might happen, and is it intended the double deckers replace the B7RLEs in their entirety at CV?

My understanding is that while there will always be a requirement for single deck vehicles for certain routes, the amount of electric double decks incoming will reduce the number of single decks overall at Coventry.

While there has not yet been any confirmation of any order for single-deck electric buses, there is still plenty of time to make a decision, and I'm sure we'll yet see another couple of demonstrators given the once over.

[don]

Yeah that's my understanding as well - actually I should have said 11 E200s (839-44 and 871-5). 832 is currently in paint (presumed grey with red trim) and I presume 833 will follow at some point. That would be a CV fleet of 151 if all the DDs are cascaded (and the three old ones withdrawn), and all the B7RLEs are cascaded. 

[BK63 YWP]

Is there just 30 DD due this year followed by potentially 270 next year?

[BBS]

Indeed but if replaced by B7RLEs or double deckers this wouldn't happen. Another possibility is cascade of E200MMC to replace Omnilinks if the 4 gets converted to electric double decker. All conjecture but the next year will be very interesting indeed.

Most likley the 4 is going to be converted to electric, but there's way more Omnilinks in the fleet. You'll also need to train every garage that has never had e200MMC

[Steve3229vp]

Would much rather have an Omnilink over no bus at all, and much preferred to an E200 or B7RLE imo.

The comment about being better than no bus at all is rubbish, they're no good at all when they go flying past you full up when it's normally a double decker.

[Sh4318]

Yeah that's my understanding as well - actually I should have said 11 E200s (839-44 and 871-5). 832 is currently in paint (presumed grey with red trim) and I presume 833 will follow at some point. That would be a CV fleet of 151 if all the DDs are cascaded (and the three old ones withdrawn), and all the B7RLEs are cascaded.

I personally look forward to 2153 in particular, returning to NXWM

[don]

Most likley the 4 is going to be converted to electric, but there's way more Omnilinks in the fleet. You'll also need to train every garage that has never had e200MMC

West Bromwich already has some (and Scanias).